Nothing i tried works...please help

[JohnnyBgood247]

OK here goes
I am 26yr old male
I am only 106 pounds. thats right only 106 pounds
I have been lifting for about 2 years. Very Cut, but no gains.
I have taken the weight gainers, the protein shakes. Everything known to man. Nothing works.
Now I even did a cycle once before like last year, of deca and test, for about 2 months. No gain or change at all.

My goal is to try to get to 150-160 pounds. I know to everyone on here thats a joke. But to me it would a blessing.

I am going to try Sus 250. See how that works.
a shot twice a week of 1CC
and than start my novla PCT on my last shot ( maybe add clomid)
or even run novla while im on the cycle.

OK now these are my question.
How long should i run the sus for?
should i run it with deca?
I am trying to gain massive weight and keep ALOT of my gains. if i could keep all of my gains but most is fine.
Do you feel i should run something different? If so please lay out the exactally what i should take and my weekly routine. Be detailed like your explaining directions to a child.
Or maybe should i add something to my cycle?

Please dont say go through other posts, cause i dont think anyone on here has a problem like me. First time on here..please be detailed and informative. Thanks alot.
Any questions about me, please ask, And ill answer ASAP.
Thanks again.
Please help.

[pwnflow]

Woah 106! I'm gf is heavier than that, and she isn't even fat! What's your height and diet?

[Bonaparte]

Pics? (sorry, but I'm really curious to see what this looks like)

Do you have an eating disorder? Do you have any idea why you are so underweight?

[injured1]

Well, should you be running a cycle if you can't gain weight at all outside the gym? If you need to rely on steroids just to gain healthy weight, then you might have a medical issue. It's one thing to run a cycle or do a steroid to promote mass, it's also another for health. To give you an idea, the average guy in the gym should be gaining 8-10lbs a year, natural. Some can say 5 lbs. It depends. How tall are you?

Some of your questions are kinda like mine. Also, given the right height, 5ft.8 or below...you can look great at 160. Say at 8-10 b/f, give or take 1 percent. Also, if you have a smaller frame, you might want to avoid over training. Maybe stick with the big compounds, then isolations as you develop. Far as the roids, I cannot answer b/c I have not taken any. However, steroids like Anavar can be prescribed under certain guide lines. Are you eating enough would be my second q? If not, instead of relying on weight gainers( they are a supplement, not a source ), there are appetite stimulators that a doc would prob prescribe. Some are off label, but used for weight gain. Also your body has a homeostasis and metabolism. Your metabolism can fire up if you have anxiety attacks, are stressed a lot,etc....You see this in a lot of smaller guys. Why does this happen? Well, Adrenaline is a hormone that speeds up heart rate. The quicker the heart goes, more than likely quicker metab. Also, your body gets use to it's weight, and sometimes wants to keep it there. So for a hard gainer with a fast metab, it can be hard.... Esp. if a medical condition is present.

Also..... If you take to much weight gainer, it can go through you. Common mistake by many. Let me have a 1500 calorie weight gainer. Your body will not absorb near none of that at once. So that might be another problem. Maybe also a liquid multi as it gets used by the body better. Again, far as the steroids, I couldn't tell you. Far as the steroid goals you have and qs, I might have the same.....lol. You want to keep a lot of your gains. Being quality.

[cro]

good move by coming on here post your stats with pic and we can get a good assesment,seems like you should talk to a doctor bro, i hope your shorter, i think steroids is def not the answer.

OK here goes
I am 26yr old male
I am only 106 pounds. thats right only 106 pounds
I have been lifting for about 2 years. Very Cut, but no gains.
I have taken the weight gainers, the protein shakes. Everything known to man. Nothing works.
Now I even did a cycle once before like last year, of deca and test, for about 2 months. No gain or change at all.

My goal is to try to get to 150-160 pounds. I know to everyone on here thats a joke. But to me it would a blessing.

I am going to try Sus 250. See how that works.
a shot twice a week of 1CC
and than start my novla PCT on my last shot ( maybe add clomid)
or even run novla while im on the cycle.

OK now these are my question.
How long should i run the sus for?
should i run it with deca?
I am trying to gain massive weight and keep ALOT of my gains. if i could keep all of my gains but most is fine.
Do you feel i should run something different? If so please lay out the exactally what i should take and my weekly routine. Be detailed like your explaining directions to a child.
Or maybe should i add something to my cycle?

Please dont say go through other posts, cause i dont think anyone on here has a problem like me. First time on here..please be detailed and informative. Thanks alot.
Any questions about me, please ask, And ill answer ASAP.
Thanks again.
Please help.

[ranging1]

lol bro u sure u dont have anemia

jokes man

post up ur daily diet so e can have a look at it

also how tall are you?

[Far from massive]

I have to assume this is someone trolling for responses. If not its someone who needs to see a doctor as medical help would be the first stop, not posting on an AAS board.

PS OP if you have seen a doctor post up his analysis of your problem.

[Ruffiancino]

I have to assume this is someone trolling for responses. If not its someone who needs to see a doctor as medical help would be the first stop, not posting on an AAS board.

PS OP if you have seen a doctor post up his analysis of your problem.

This is pretty much exactly what I was going to say. This sounds like a medical problem, have you ever seen a doctor about this? 26 is still young, but at this point your body should have slowed down a little bit, where you could at least put on SOME weight. If you have seen a doctor, let us know what those results were.

Also, it sounds like your diet could be a huge part of it. You should post up what you eat on a typical day, complete with how many meals, when you eat them, and include your serving size and calorie breakdown (protein/carbs/fat). Protein shakes and weight gainers won't do the trick. You have to eat real food, the right kinds, to put on quality weight. Good luck, man, that sucks. I was a small guy for a lot of my life, I hovered around the 130's till I was probably right around your age. It'll get better

[JohnnyBgood247]

I am 5'8. If you see me for some reason. You wouldnt think i was 106. I look like i am 130-135. I don't have an appitie at all. I never get hungry. I went to many doctors and they all said as i get older i should be gaining weight. So this is my next step. PLease hit me back up with a response. Sorry I am def not posting any pics of my body up. any other questions ill respond too.

[JohnnyBgood247]

I am not unhealthy at all. i know it sounds weird, but all my levels are normal. The only thing thats abnormal is my weight. I dont look sickly at all. So thats why i want to try this. well let me know guys if you can help.

[Ruffiancino]

At this point, I, personally, wouldn't recommend starting on anything AAS related on your own, just because this is a very abnormal scenario. Have you tried any specialty doctors, or just your local, family doctor? I know a couple of guys that got prescribed stuff to help them grow, because they had problems similar to yours, but they had to see specialty doctors. I can't remember exactly what was wrong with them, unfortunately, I apologize. One was pituitary related, the other one I can't remember at all. It was a controlled gain though, and they were being monitored the whole time, which is obviously much safer.

[Bonaparte]

What??? Now I'm even more incredulous. How can you be concentration camp-skinny and NOT look unhealthy?
106lbs at 5'8" is unheard of (even for girls). Even high school wrestlers who are 5'8" and scrawny as hell have to cut a bunch of weight to be that light, and they look like they're about to keel over and die.

Seriously, post a pic (who cares, you aren't showing your face anyway) or GTFO and quit trolling. And you said yourself that you look much bigger than 108lbs, so why does it bother you?
Oh, and there is no way that a doc looked at someone at your height and weight and just said: "your metabolism will eventually slow down and you'll be able to gain some weight". That's what they say to average-skinny 16 year olds, not horribly underweight 26 year olds.

[vettewreck]

BY NO MEANS SHOULD YOU USE GEAR!!!! You need to EAT!! Hungry OR NOT, EAT!! PERIOD!! Every 2-3 hours eat, something, anything just EAT!!! I cant stress that enough. You need to get AHEAD of your metabolism. The only way to do that is to eat when you Are NOT hungry--- and keep doing it. Seriously man. Get a weight gainer shake (1000 calories) and sip on it throughout the day. Do not drink it in one sitting. The goal is to have a steady stream of calories entering your system. Eat something every 2-3 hours, and keep sipping on your weight gainer shake throughout the day. This will give your body an EXTRA 1000 USABLE calories ONTOP of what you eat every few hours to stay ahead of your metabolism.

Whatever you gain on sustanon, you WILL LOSE after you come off bc your body doesnt have the frame or size/weight to sustain the gains you got. Make sense? A persons body has to have some type of a base to hold the extra size/weight/strength that came with the test, and 106lbs isnt nearly enough. You will gain 20lbs, and lose 19 of it soon after and all you did was gain 1lbs and give yourself alot of side effects and discomfort. Trust me man, just follow what I said and you will see the scale start to move after your first 2/3 weeks. Just say consistant and give a lag time of 2/3 weeks before you start seeing weight. And its not all about what youve done to gain weight... alot of it is timing.

[JohnnyBgood247]

OK i am not posting a pic. Because a pic has nothing to do with the information your going to give me. And i look more than my weight with clothes on, not without. And no i do not wear baggy clothes, my clothes are prettty tight. Vettewreck and ruffianciano. Thank you. but first i have went to many doctors, too many. All my levels are completely nomal, my thyroid, my test level, everything, so they cant perscribe something when everything is exactally where it needs to be. Another thing is that your tellng me to eat. I try to too..trust me i do. Sometimes it doesnt even go down and i feel like im going to throw up. Listen guys i didnt wake up one morning and have this problem, its been a 26 yr on going problem. SO i wouldnt resort to soemthing if i havent tried everything. but def thanks anyways guys. Thank you again.

[cro]

hey bro no one is making a joke out of this at all , i dont think your a troll and i know these guys will help you . no one pokes at pics well song dog told me to put a shirt on when i was at 20% bf . who cares your here to better your body these guys will help you get there bro . I feel for you . But at least your healthy.dont be insecure , trust me you want to beat this and your on the best forum with a great group of guys.

OK i am not posting a pic. Because a pic has nothing to do with the information your going to give me. And i look more than my weight with clothes on, not without. And no i do not wear baggy clothes, my clothes are prettty tight. Vettewreck and ruffianciano. Thank you. but first i have went to many doctors, too many. All my levels are completely nomal, my thyroid, my test level, everything, so they cant perscribe something when everything is exactally where it needs to be. Another thing is that your tellng me to eat. I try to too..trust me i do. Sometimes it doesnt even go down and i feel like im going to throw up. Listen guys i didnt wake up one morning and have this problem, its been a 26 yr on going problem. SO i wouldnt resort to soemthing if i havent tried everything. but def thanks anyways guys. Thank you again.

[MBMETC]

johnny have you seen a nutritionist? post your story in the diet section and im sure someone will be willing to help you, but you need to be receptive and be willing to do the work. i feel for you bro i was skinny all my life i was like 125 5'9" in my late teens and finally in my 20's started putting on weight ,now im a fat bastard..jk. seriusly head over to the diet section and see if anyone is willing to try and change your life

[Duckhombre]

Steroids will not help you unless you eat. Eating is step one, do you think steroids are magic. The law of conservation of energy, it is basic physics, unless you eat you will not gain weight, period. If you were eating, steroids would allow you put on more muscle, but only if you were taking in MUCH more calories than you would otherwise take in. I recommend you look into some poly peptides, there one CJ#### that is rumored to grossly stimulate appetite. Steroids are not what you need.

[Ruffiancino]

OK i am not posting a pic. Because a pic has nothing to do with the information your going to give me. And i look more than my weight with clothes on, not without. And no i do not wear baggy clothes, my clothes are prettty tight. Vettewreck and ruffianciano. Thank you. but first i have went to many doctors, too many. All my levels are completely nomal, my thyroid, my test level, everything, so they cant perscribe something when everything is exactally where it needs to be. Another thing is that your tellng me to eat. I try to too..trust me i do. Sometimes it doesnt even go down and i feel like im going to throw up. Listen guys i didnt wake up one morning and have this problem, its been a 26 yr on going problem. SO i wouldnt resort to soemthing if i havent tried everything. but def thanks anyways guys. Thank you again.

Keep your head up man, trust me, I know how bad this sucks. Noone on here is ripping you because you are skinny, or because you are considering jumping on gear, so take everything that is being said as "helpful hints", if you will. I agree with MBMETC, you should consider going to see a nutritionist. I would imagine, after all this time, your body has been trained that it doesn't need to eat, therefore it doesn't want to eat. But regardless, you will NOT put on weight without the fuel to do it. Who knows man, maybe you have some sort of food allergy that affects you when you eat certain things. They could help with that. Honestly, I would recommend giving that a thought. Also, you should definitely head to the diet section and start up some convos there. You can figure out different ways, and things, to eat. For example, it seems like you don't have a problem drinking shakes and the such. Would that be a safe assumption? If so, you should scrap the weight gainers and make your own out of real food. You can mix milk, protein powder, peanut butter, oats, fruit etc.... together and you get a lot of calories with real, good food, that your body will use, and not just discard.

I think at this point you are going to have to retrain your body that an overabundance of food is a good thing, not a bad thing. And you don't have to start all at once. Obviously you won't be able to up your caloric intake 2000 calories overnight, but it can work if you do it gradually. Keep your head up, my friend

[MBMETC]

^^good point on the shakes, my pwo shake is whey protien, oats, natty pb, and a bananna its like 700cals

[38jumper38]

I like this answer (by injured1): To give you an idea, the average guy in the gym should be gaining 8-10lbs a year, natural. Some can say 5 lbs. It depends.

[layeazy]

Dude you need to get a decent weight gainer you need to live in the diet section on this site it has everything you need you are currently underweight and obviously arent eating or training right. whether you look bigger than you are doesnt matter your 106 pounds that tiny doesnt matter if you have the faster metabolism in the world you still can reach 130- 140 pounds naturally with right diet and exercise... lift heavy and eat eat eat good luck

[Far from massive]

Here is another idea with no adverse health consequences if it does not work. Try some digestive enzymes like Papaya and see if that causes your appetite to pick up. I also like the idea of some wieght gain drinks since your appetite seems to be the problem, maybe they will go down easier another thing that might help would be eating right before you sleep maybe casein. One other note (although the board forbids talk about dr=gs so hopefully this is OK) if you do the smoke stuff although it may increase appetite at first what it does in many individuals long term is supress appetite on top of that it lowers test levels so if you are smoking 420 step away from the bubble pipe its not your friend.

I wish you all the best, I am an ectomorph and was 6.1 and between 155 at 18 and 165-170 at 21-26 but by 35 I was 200 so what the doctors say is true as you age you will gain wieght but I don't think you should wait that long.

[cro]

420 use to help me just fine to eat and gain sloppy weight. loved it.

[SMcB]

OK here goes
I am 26yr old male
I am only 106 pounds. thats right only 106 pounds
I have been lifting for about 2 years. Very Cut, but no gains.
I have taken the weight gainers, the protein shakes. Everything known to man. Nothing works.
Now I even did a cycle once before like last year, of deca and test, for about 2 months. No gain or change at all.

My goal is to try to get to 150-160 pounds. I know to everyone on here thats a joke. But to me it would a blessing.

I am going to try Sus 250. See how that works.
a shot twice a week of 1CC
and than start my novla PCT on my last shot ( maybe add clomid)
or even run novla while im on the cycle.

OK now these are my question.
How long should i run the sus for?
should i run it with deca?
I am trying to gain massive weight and keep ALOT of my gains. if i could keep all of my gains but most is fine.
Do you feel i should run something different? If so please lay out the exactally what i should take and my weekly routine. Be detailed like your explaining directions to a child.
Or maybe should i add something to my cycle?

Please dont say go through other posts, cause i dont think anyone on here has a problem like me. First time on here..please be detailed and informative. Thanks alot.
Any questions about me, please ask, And ill answer ASAP.
Thanks again.
Please help.

By the way, how tall are you? It seems like lack of calories is not your problem. Do you have a physically demanding job? A guy working construction is going to have a much harder time gaining than a guy who sits in an office all day. What is your workout routine? You may be overtraining, and from my experience, if you are overtraining then all the calories in the world is not going to help you. Work each bodypart no more than once a week. Also, hardgainers who have a very frail build may not be able to handle doing both squats and deadlifts. I would recommend doing only 4 compound exercises once a week. For example: Workout #1 1-2 sets of Squats and 1-2 sets of lat pulldowns
Workout #2 1-2 sets of Bench presses and 1-2 sets of military presses
This is an ultra-abbreviated routine but you seem to be an ultra hardgainer like myself. You can always add more sets and exercises if you'd like, but at your build I'd start off with this. I really think you'll gain without steroids using abbreviated routines.

[JohnnyBgood247]

yes i have been to many nutritionist...its all just a big waste of money. Well Thanks alot. I'm gonna move over to nutrition section. I will def. listen to everything said. And hopefully one day i gain some weight. lol. In all seriousness though. Thank you very much.

[MBMETC]

Good luck

[cro]

good luck .

[JohnnyBgood247]

one more thing...if sus is exactally like test..why is there soo many more side effects and so much more gain ?

[MBMETC]

Its a mixture of 4 esters of test including prop which make it a litle more painful

[Far from massive]

Good luck!

[Bonaparte]

one more thing...if sus is exactally like test..why is there soo many more side effects and so much more gain ?

There aren't. Any difference is just coming from different blood level peaks.