Dianabol, first ever cycle, am i too young?

[used]

Im 20 years old, 6 foot 4 weighing over 14 and a half stone and ive been weight training since 16.

I have a solid routine and diet designed for me by my boss (pro bodybuilder of 14 years), i feel however that i've hit a wall and i would like to take it to the next level. I understand a lot of people think its stupid doing it at my age but i've never seen any real explanations only "i wish i'd never done it" kind of thing. Im on the fence on whether dbol (or any AAS) is really for me or not, i like my figure in terms of tone but i would like to get A LOT more size and i've tried natural gainer cycles etc.

ANYWAY, do the pros outweigh the cons or not? Also, is the baldness a real issue? Im looking at 30mg a day dose (with novaldex as my pct) if i was to go ahead, with enough to last for a 12week cycle, i've also read a lot of people advising on a 6 week cycle instead... Sorry if this has been asked loads of times before

[carp123]

at 20 your natural test levals are at there peak ,if you do a dbol cycle now you will shut down your natural test for what? warter/fat and very little lean muscle gain ,this is turn will have your hormones all over the place and when trying to recover with pct you may well come depresed and this can lead you to jump back on cycle ,this is were abuse is seen and this is were a big real risk of dammageing your natural test procution can occour and you dont want that let me tell you from personal experance its not a nice experacne.

[manveer1]

read up you know absolutely nothing if you think dianabol for 12 weeks is fine. you need to read up desperately. and get 12 weeks dianabol out of your head for your own safety.

[deladude]

What the hell is 14 1/2 stone in lbs!!!!!

[carp123]

around 200lbs

[RaZr]

What type of measurement is stone anyway?

[carp123]

14 lbs to a stone ,its what we use here in the uk.

[RaZr]

hmm thats pretty cool I figured UK would just be metric

[used]

sorry by enough for 12 weeks cycle i meant in maths terms i would be able to take 30-40mg a day for 6 weeks if necessary, would there be any noticable gains at 20mg a day or is it just not worth it at that point, i understand what you mean carp as thats what i've read, but having said that my two gym friends who recommended it and its been the only aas they've ever taken (both my age) have both had great results and apart from acne have had no real side effects, they've now completed their pct (one of them finished his cycle over a year ago) and are just on natural supplements and are still ripped and a lot stronger than me even though i've been at the gym as long as them, it just seemed like a step in the right direction (half joking), but im also patient and if im too young then im too young.

[used]

yeah i've never measured anything in pounds, our gym uses kg but i still seem to measure myself in stone and my height in feet..

[carp123]

@ used ,imo if you want to use aas go with a nice compound like anavar ,70mgs for 6-8 weeks will give you nice results without the bloat and gyno problems dbol can cause ,now people may disagree with me here but anavar is mild and it dont suppress the hpta as much as dbol ,it also dont give gyno or blaot and is an all round good compound to test the water with ,modaration and education is the key my freind.

[layeazy]

Hes too young mate, all you need to do is talk to your pro mate and he will tell you the pros and cons and if you use he will know anyways so hes the guy to talk to with 14 years in the game he will have alot of knowledge and advice for you.

[HawaiianPride.]

Stick with a strong diet and training routine like you've been doing. Use your internal production of test, gh and igf to your advantage for the next couple years. Your youth will provide what you need, it's up to you to provide the right diet and training to back it up. You don't need steroids just yet.

[used]

@carp123 im reading up on anavar now, it does seem a more sensible option, i've been really concerned about dbols side effects and i think i've been pushed over the fence now and im going to keep away from them, the only problem with avanar has been described as really expensive? But i guess thats for a good reason. Also in terms of pct and compound, is novaldex also appropriate? I havent read anything about baldness/acne or sex drive yet, will they be an issue? Thanks for your help carp

[used]

Stick with a strong diet and training routine like you've been doing. Use your internal production of test, gh and igf to your advantage for the next couple years. Your youth will provide what you need, it's up to you to provide the right diet and training to back it up. You don't need steroids just yet.

true, although the gains have almost come to a stop i know they will carry on improving. As i have a lot of work coming up im just going to hit the carbs again and then cut up nearer beach season

[carp123]

as the other guys said its best if you wait for a few years mate ,i simply opend your eyes to anavar for the simple reason that i belive that when its in your mind at your age to use its very hard to back down and listen so i belive that giveing you the best possable safest option (anavar imo) is the best way to advise you ,everyone is different when it comes to steroids mate ,some see sides some dont,some get gyno some dont and so on ,i cant tell you what sides you may or may not get or weather you will lose your sex drive ,knowone can tell you this ,as for pct i would say nolvadex and a very low dose of clomid would suit and anavar cycle

weeks 1-8 70mgs anavar per day

2 days after last anavar tab start pct

nolvadex 40/20/20/20

clomid 50/25/25/25

remebr i am simply laying out what i belive to be the safest option here if he wants to go ahead with aas useage ,i have seen it all too much when young guys want to cycle and they dont get the advise they need they just end up jumping on 100mg anadrol for 8 weeks with no pct ect ,hope this helps mate..

ps-

BEST THING TO DO IS WAIT AS THE GUYS ABOVE SAY..

[used]

Yeah i think your right too, i just saw an oppurtunity and took it. Im not sure how committed i was in actually taking them, especially as so many people are against taking them so young, i can always look great when im older too haha.
Thanks for your advice anyway, if i do go onto aas when im older it will be anavar i think, for now im blessed with some good genes so i think i'll just stack up again naturally and see how it goes for now

[HawaiianPride.]

Great choice man.

[songdog]

Smart choice bro.Another guy your age wishes now he didnt.He cant get a woody.That sucks at that age.

[Tigershark]

Hope you are serious about waiting. Best of luck to you.