First cycle! Feel welcome to comment or improve it.

[DKbuilder]

Stats
24 years of age
102 kg
12% fat
195 cm
4 years of training

Goals for cycle
A traditional cycle with focus on lean gains. I have diet 100% under control and I have had my diet reevaluated two times in the diet section.

Cycle
1-10 Test E 500mg EW
1-12 Nolvadex 10 mg ED
1-12 Adex 0.25 mg ED
1-end cycle HCG 200IU 2-3 times a week (goes through PCT as well to prevent testicular atrophy)

Starting on PCT 2 weeks later after last Test E injection.
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

There it is. It's my first cycle and I also have letro on hand in case of gyno, just to be safe. I hope you guys have some comments on this. You could also give me comments on other ways to do PCT instead of the listed one.

Also - I am currently on a 5-split and thinking about doing a 3-split while on cycle because of the increased restitution on cycle. I guess I'd like to hit my muscle more times a week instead of one.

DKBuilder

[DKbuilder]

Any vets?

[layeazy]

Good to see you a little knowledge about what you are doing so good luck hope you get the gains you are after.

[DKbuilder]

Good to see you a little knowledge about what you are doing so good luck hope you get the gains you are after.

Thanks bro.

[DKbuilder]

Still need advice from vets.

[bodybuilder]

Drop the nolva during cycle just stick with the adex.

[Tigershark]

Drop the nolva during cycle just stick with the adex.

Agreed.

[notsureifsrs]

I would keep the nolva EOD or even drop it off
and don't you think that's kind of too heavy PCT? the nolva and HCG is enough, save the clomid for heavier cycle

[DKbuilder]

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[DKbuilder]

Drop the nolva during cycle just stick with the adex.

Yea, I am going to do this, and I will still do clomid / nolva for PCT.

[Matt]

No need for hcg during your pct, i would discontinue it a week before and yes nolva and clomid for pct....

[DKbuilder]

No need for hcg during your pct, i would discontinue it a week before and yes nolva and clomid for pct....

Okay, I think I'll do that but why not run it through PCT?

[Matt]

Because hcg can surpress ones hpta....

[DKbuilder]

Anyone else?

[MBMETC]

You got all you need. Run the cycle eat like an animal (watch your fat) train hard get plenty of rest and be 250lbs in 12 weeks

[DKbuilder]

You got all you need. Run the cycle eat like an animal (watch your fat) train hard get plenty of rest and be 250lbs in 12 weeks

Thanks bro. I'll eat 110% clean and no cheat meals. Perhaps one every month MAX.

[MBMETC]

Thanks bro. I'll eat 110% clean and no cheat meals. Perhaps one every month MAX.

a slice of pizza every now and then to keep you sane
good luck

[flexandex]

Hey bro, just noticed the rather heavy dose of adex..
Really at the most you only want to run it EOD 0.25 before you notice any sides. If you feel bloating and the like, its very easy to bring your adex up to match it.

Just somethign to have a look at..

[BIG NICE]

Looks a lot like what my first cycle will be.

[Far from massive]

Just a note on the HCG, that you might like to hear,

I have run two cycles so far, one without HCG (which resulted in raisins, thought they did recover in PCT) and one with HCG (250iu 2 times pr wk) on my second cycle, which was straight test (7 wks Prop) I am glad to say that with HCG atrophy was basically non existant, maybe a little in the first two weeks then zero after that.

I agree with the idea of pinning twice per week, you will achieve better blood level stability, and be less likely to have a problem from the large volume of once per week.

FFM