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    My Routine, please help and critique

    Ok, I think I need some help with my routine. This routine is based on Monday through Friday with Saturday and Sunday off. Keep in mind all my workouts are in the AM before I start work.
    With the exception of Tuesday and Thursday I do a split, Cardio in the AM, and I have a personal trainer for the PM. Most of the weights I have given are what I usually lift, there are better days, and there are worse days.
    Back days I do alternate cables workouts, with reverse one week and regular grip the following. I am trying to go for size and just started a 12 week cycle ( listed Below ). My diet is also posted in the diet section.

    Current Cycle started Jan 9/2011

    Week 1-4 -Anadrol 25 @ 100mg ED
    Week 1-12 – Deca 300 @ 600mg per week
    Week 1-14 – Sust 250 @ 1000 per week.

    PCT
    Liquid Clomi @ 100/50/50/50
    Liguid Nolva @ 20/20/20/20
    Liquid Clen @ basic 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off

    Stats: Stats:
    37yrs
    5ft 9
    205lbs
    15ish % BF
    Training 6+ yrs


    Monday 7AM = Back
    Deadlifts - 5 sets @ 225 x 10 / 275 x 7 / 315 x 5 / 315 x 5 / 225 x 10
    DB Rows – 5 sets @ 85 x 10 reps
    Bent over BB rows – 5 sets @ 185 @ 6-10 reps
    Cable Rows – 5 sets @ 205 x 10 reps
    Cable Rows reverse grip – 5 sets @ variable weight
    Cable Pull Downs – 5 sets @ Variable weight
    Cable Pull Downs behind neck – 5 sets @ variable weight

    Tuesday 7AM = Cardio, Abs, calves, AM
    30-45 minutes of cardio, elliptical, treadmill, moderate pace.
    Leg raises – 5 set @ 25
    Decline sit ups – 5 sets @ 20-25
    Cable crunches – 5 sets 35-50
    Calves seated – 5 sets @ 25
    Calves standing - sets @ 25

    Tuesday 1PM = Chest PM
    Flat BB – 5 sets @ 225 x 6-8 reps
    Flat DB – 5 sets @ 70 x 8-12 reps
    Machine Press – 5 sets @ 185 x 8-12 reps
    DB Flys – 5 sets @ 25 x 12-15 reps ( straight arm )

    Wednesday 7AM = Legs
    Squats – 5 sets @ 225 x 10 / 275 x 6-8 / 315 x 5-7 / 275 x 6-8 / 225 x 10-12
    Leg Press – 5 sets @ 540 x 10-12 / 630 x 8-10 / 720 x 5-8 / 810 x 4-6 / 540 x 10-12
    Leg Extension – 5 sets @ 135 x 10-12 reps
    Hamstring curls – 5 sets @ 50 x -10-12reps ( single legs )

    Thursday 7AM = Cardio, Abs, Calves AM
    30-45 minutes of cardio, elliptical, treadmill, moderate pace.
    Leg raises – 5 set @ 25
    Decline sit ups – 5 sets @ 20-25
    Cable crunches – 5 sets 35-50
    Calves seated – 5 sets @ 25
    Calves standing - sets @ 25

    Thursday 1PM = Bi’s & Tri’s
    BB Curls – 5 sets @ 95 x 7-8/ 95 x 5-6 / 95 x 4-5 / 95 x 3-4 / 95 x 1-3
    DB Curls – 5 sets @ 35 x -8-10 ( standing double arm )
    DB Hammers – 5 sets @ 25 – 10-12 ( standing double arm )
    Closegrip BB – 5 sets @ 185 x -8-10
    Skull crushers – 5 sets @ 85 x -8-10
    Cable Pull Downs – 5 sets @ variable weights

    Friday 7AM = Shoulders
    Smith Machine Press – 5 sets @ 135 x 8-10
    DB Press – 5 sets @ 50 x -8-10
    Cable Lateral Raise @ 30 x 8-10
    Machine Rear Delt – 5 sets @ variable weights

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    Your routine is set up more like a powerlifters. The 5x5 is a strength routine. Drop the sets down to 3 sets of 8-10.

    Also why are you going so high with the dosage on the cycle? You really think you need that much?

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    I've always avoided training the same muscle/muscle groups on consecutive days for potential over-training issues.
    For that reason I would move tri's and shoulders at least a day apart. However its perfectly acceptable to keep them as they, I personally wouldn't be able to press to my full potential 2 days on the go.
    You could perhaps benefit from a rest day in there some where anyway.

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    I think that your routine looks ok but if you have been doing it for awhile it might be time to change it up to shock the body for growth. Also you dont do incline press on chest day. How many cycles have you done that is a high dose keep a eye out for gyno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stack_it View Post
    Your routine is set up more like a powerlifters. The 5x5 is a strength routine. Drop the sets down to 3 sets of 8-10.

    Also why are you going so high with the dosage on the cycle? You really think you need that much?
    Curious as to why you think i would benefit from sets of 3. goal is to put on size for the next 3 months
    Sust 250 was only supposed to be 750mg / week. i am only one shot in at 500mg. I will probably keep the deca @ 600mg / week and the sust250 @ 750 / week

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    Quote Originally Posted by jla1986 View Post
    I think that your routine looks ok but if you have been doing it for awhile it might be time to change it up to shock the body for growth. Also you dont do incline press on chest day. How many cycles have you done that is a high dose keep a eye out for gyno.
    this is the routine my trainner put me on. i do question the no incline on chest days.
    I am on my 6th cycle, and sust was only supposed to be 750mg / week. I was not paying attention and put 2cc in the syringe. I have only done one shot so far on this cycle, the 2nd shot is tonight and i will only be doing 375mg or 1.5cc per shot. Deca i wll keep @ 600mg / week.

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    6 cycles and you only lift those weights....

    As for no inclines, that is not really an issue, however doing two or is three flat presses is kind of pointless IMO and 4 rowing excerises on back....really.

    Poor routine imo
    Last edited by terraj; 01-12-2011 at 07:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terraj View Post
    6 cycles and you only lift those weights....

    As for no inclines, that is not really an issue, however doing two or is three flat presses is kind of pointless IMO and 4 rowing excerises on back....really.

    Poor routine imo
    It is the program my trainer put me on. that is why I am want to get some help with my routine. I want to grow not run a marathon. If it were up to my trainer he would have me drop the weight down and do more Sets and more reps. I have about 6 more sessions with him and then I am on my own and want to get a better understanding of how to train

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    Tough one to answer man, as you we be changing while on cycle....something I would not do normally.

    But I will say that since you have years of training behind and you are after mass.... I would take a look at DC training, it is hard progessive overload training which works well for bulking and particularly well with lots of cals and some chemicals. If you don't know DC it may seem very different to what you have done proir, but if you stick to the 2 day split and beat your log book I am sure you will be very happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terraj View Post
    Tough one to answer man, as you we be changing while on cycle....something I would not do normally.

    But I will say that since you have years of training behind and you are after mass.... I would take a look at DC training, it is hard progessive overload training which works well for bulking and particularly well with lots of cals and some chemicals. If you don't know DC it may seem very different to what you have done proir, but if you stick to the 2 day split and beat your log book I am sure you will be very happy.
    Reading up on the DC Training ( DoggCrapp ) and not sure I get a full understanding on it. I agree with you that changing while on is not a good thing, but i need to try something different.

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    Disregard the above, bad advise....

    Stick to waht you are using but mod it IMO

    Monday 7AM = Back
    Deadlifts - 5 sets of 5
    3 sets of 8-10 -pick one rowing movement, I like BB
    Pull ups 3 sets to failure, add weights if needed

    Tuesday 7AM = Cardio, Abs, calves, AM
    30-45 minutes of cardio, elliptical, treadmill, moderate pace.
    Leg raises – 5 set @ 25
    Decline sit ups – 5 sets @ 20-25
    Cable crunches – 5 sets 35-50
    Calves seated – 5 sets @ 25
    Calves standing - sets @ 25

    Tuesday 1PM = Chest PM
    Flat DB – 3 sets 8-10 reps
    Decline bench or incline if you want 3 sets 8-10 reps
    DB Flys – 3 sets 10 reps

    Wednesday 7AM = Legs
    Squats – 3x15
    Leg Press – 3 sets 8-10 reps
    Leg Extension – 2 sets high rep drop sets
    SLDL – 3 sets 8-12 reps

    Thursday 7AM = Cardio, Abs, Calves AM
    30-45 minutes of cardio, elliptical, treadmill, moderate pace.
    Leg raises – 5 set @ 25
    Decline sit ups – 5 sets @ 20-25
    Cable crunches – 5 sets 35-50
    Calves seated – 5 sets @ 25
    Calves standing - sets @ 25

    Thursday 1PM = Bi’s & Tri’s
    BB Curls – 3 sets 8-12
    DB Hammers – 3 sets 8-12 reps

    Dips or close grip bench 3 sets 8-10 reps
    Cable Pull Downs – 3 sets 8-10 reps

    Friday 7AM = Shoulders

    DB Press – 3 sets
    Cable Lateral Raise 3 sets
    Machine Rear Delt – 4 sets @ variable weights

    I would also have a day off mid week

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    Quote Originally Posted by terraj View Post
    Disregard the above, bad advise....

    Stick to waht you are using but mod it IMO

    Monday 7AM = Back
    Deadlifts - 5 sets of 5
    3 sets of 8-10 -pick one rowing movement, I like BB
    Pull ups 3 sets to failure, add weights if needed

    Tuesday 7AM = Cardio, Abs, calves, AM
    30-45 minutes of cardio, elliptical, treadmill, moderate pace.
    Leg raises – 5 set @ 25
    Decline sit ups – 5 sets @ 20-25
    Cable crunches – 5 sets 35-50
    Calves seated – 5 sets @ 25
    Calves standing - sets @ 25

    Tuesday 1PM = Chest PM
    Flat DB – 3 sets 8-10 reps
    Decline bench or incline if you want 3 sets 8-10 reps
    DB Flys – 3 sets 10 reps

    Wednesday 7AM = Legs
    Squats – 3x15
    Leg Press – 3 sets 8-10 reps
    Leg Extension – 2 sets high rep drop sets
    SLDL – 3 sets 8-12 reps

    Thursday 7AM = Cardio, Abs, Calves AM
    30-45 minutes of cardio, elliptical, treadmill, moderate pace.
    Leg raises – 5 set @ 25
    Decline sit ups – 5 sets @ 20-25
    Cable crunches – 5 sets 35-50
    Calves seated – 5 sets @ 25
    Calves standing - sets @ 25

    Thursday 1PM = Bi’s & Tri’s
    BB Curls – 3 sets 8-12
    DB Hammers – 3 sets 8-12 reps

    Dips or close grip bench 3 sets 8-10 reps
    Cable Pull Downs – 3 sets 8-10 reps

    Friday 7AM = Shoulders

    DB Press – 3 sets
    Cable Lateral Raise 3 sets
    Machine Rear Delt – 4 sets @ variable weights

    I would also have a day off mid week
    Terra thanks for the input bro.
    I guess the goal by reducing the sets would be to increase the weights to maximize the exercise. Also what is " SLDL
    I could take Wednesday off and move everything down a day pushing me into Saturday. That will give me Wednesday and Sunday off. Just hard with two small kids at home to do anyting on the weekends.

    I wish i could find a BB to hire to train me. Most trainers in gyms are not BB and i question there knowledge. My trainer is an athelete ( Football Player CFL ) but in no way does he train anyone to grow.

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    Stiff legged dead lift.
    Training to failure within the rep range for each excerise on the last 1 or 2 sets.
    Keeping the weekend free....I would put shoulders with chest on Tue, Wed off. Yeah, I like that, you will be fresh on back day and legs day, which is always good.

    IMO^^

    Best to you.

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