Got some prop and got a problem

[chi]

ok well i have 52ccs of 100mg per ml prop and i am starting to organize myself for a cycle. Now the problem...........................the manufacturer date on it is 8/2006. Yeah i know guys save me the comments about what the heck i was thinking lol. Now the question is does anyone know how potent this stuff is still?

[SlimJoe]

I'm not to sure on this mate just trying to help out I wouldn't do it that's a good few years all the best slim

[chi]

thanks slim......................... anybody else?

[jfletcher]

I've read that shelf life is normally around 6 to 12 months depending on manufacturers obviously... I wouldn't jab it personally!!

[SlimJoe]

Get rid of it take it as a loss better than being bad all the best slim

[t-gunz]

i heard. cant confirm where though

that its still good for a fair while after.

we'll wait for more experienced people to chime in

[chi]

much appreciated guys would like to hear also from any guys with experience to this regard

[chi]

bump

[Far from massive]

This is good for a bump at least. But I would go ahead and post up what kind of container its in? If its 52 cc's left out of a partially used sheep bladder from some Aussies barn then PITCH IT!! LOL

On the other hand an ampoule stored at room temps would fair a lot better with a serum vial holding middle ground.

I also would wait for some experienced members to chime in but 2yrs is the exp date stamped on most meds in most countries. This is a matter of convenience since that gives adequate shelf life (marketing wise) and adequate protection (safety wise). It actually has nothing to do with the individual medicines shelf life and saves the drug companies from having to conduct long term experiments to set different standards for different drugs based on their actual shelf life. The drug companies are fine with this as it keeps their profits up (most consumers chuck old meds and buy new, where as manufacturers rarely if ever get caught with stock that has to be destroyed).

In the case of Test Prop the drug itself will not quickly oxidize like Test enan, so as long as the vegatable oil remains stable and the BA does not evaporate its probably OK. Of course this all depends on the exposure to air thats why an ampoule would be better than a membrane sealed vial. I would say if the stuff is still in solution, has not changed color, and of course does not have a smell ( squirt some on a piece of clean glass and smear it out, place a jar on top and let it sit and take a whiff. I know I will catch hell for saying this and while its certainly not a fool proof test, If you were planning to use it then its something I would do and if any sourness is detected then pitch it) If it passes all of these tests it may well be fine....or you may wind up with a virulent abscess, but I have read about people using ampoules that are years and years past exp date with no ill affects, but without access to a lab you really never can tell.

[Duckhombre]

Stored away from sunlight, in stable temps (no heat cycling), I would not object to taking gear 10 years old. If stored properly. Sealed bottles are important as well, as the preservative is volatile. Shelf life from manufacture is 2 years, not .5-1

[chi]

This is good for a bump at least. But I would go ahead and post up what kind of container its in? If its 52 cc's left out of a partially used sheep bladder from some Aussies barn then PITCH IT!! LOL

On the other hand an ampoule stored at room temps would fair a lot better with a serum vial holding middle ground.

I also would wait for some experienced members to chime in but 2yrs is the exp date stamped on most meds in most countries. This is a matter of convenience since that gives adequate shelf life (marketing wise) and adequate protection (safety wise). It actually has nothing to do with the individual medicines shelf life and saves the drug companies from having to conduct long term experiments to set different standards for different drugs based on their actual shelf life. The drug companies are fine with this as it keeps their profits up (most consumers chuck old meds and buy new, where as manufacturers rarely if ever get caught with stock that has to be destroyed).

In the case of Test Prop the drug itself will not quickly oxidize like Test enan, so as long as the vegatable oil remains stable and the BA does not evaporate its probably OK. Of course this all depends on the exposure to air thats why an ampoule would be better than a membrane sealed vial. I would say if the stuff is still in solution, has not changed color, and of course does not have a smell ( squirt some on a piece of clean glass and smear it out, place a jar on top and let it sit and take a whiff. I know I will catch hell for saying this and while its certainly not a fool proof test, If you were planning to use it then its something I would do and if any sourness is detected then pitch it) If it passes all of these tests it may well be fine....or you may wind up with a virulent abscess, but I have read about people using ampoules that are years and years past exp date with no ill affects, but without access to a lab you really never can tell.

awesome post far from massive thanks!!! The stuff looks just like it use to and they are amps stored in a box at room temp their entire life.

Stored away from sunlight, in stable temps (no heat cycling), I would not object to taking gear 10 years old. If stored properly. Sealed bottles are important as well, as the preservative is volatile. Shelf life from manufacture is 2 years, not .5-1

Good to know and they are ampoules so it sounds like it is looking positive!!

[marcus300]

I wouldnt use that personally, 2006 is a little to old for my liking and steroids are not that expensive so I would just buy new

[Minimal]

4 years is a little bit too much for this kind of stuff - I doubt it is worth the risk. Get rid of them and buy some fresh ones.

[MACHINE5150]

too be completley honest with you injecting it won't hurt.. it just might not help you at all.. I wish Bonaparte would chime in on this he is the scientist of the board and could help steer you in the right direction.. most gear i see has 4-5 year shelf life, but i have only seen test E, primobolan and deca.. not sure about prop.. the only thing that happens is that the compound breaks down and you will be effectively just injecting oil, which won't hurt you.. after a long time in the wrong conditions the oil can spoil, and then you have a whole other problem. If it was me, i would shoot 1 cc a week EOD and see if i gain anything after 10 days.. Prop is fast acting, you will know right away if it is still good or not.. this is of course assuming it is human grade and not a bladder like stated before.. if the seal has been broken and all that just toss it.. that much test is not THAT expensive since it is just 100mg prop (the cheapest of all AAS)

[chi]

I wouldnt use that personally, 2006 is a little to old for my liking and steroids are not that expensive so I would just buy new

Noted Marcus

4 years is a little bit too much for this kind of stuff - I doubt it is worth the risk. Get rid of them and buy some fresh ones.

appreciated

too be completley honest with you injecting it won't hurt.. it just might not help you at all.. I wish Bonaparte would chime in on this he is the scientist of the board and could help steer you in the right direction.. most gear i see has 4-5 year shelf life, but i have only seen test E, primobolan and deca.. not sure about prop.. the only thing that happens is that the compound breaks down and you will be effectively just injecting oil, which won't hurt you.. after a long time in the wrong conditions the oil can spoil, and then you have a whole other problem. If it was me, i would shoot 1 cc a week EOD and see if i gain anything after 10 days.. Prop is fast acting, you will know right away if it is still good or not.. this is of course assuming it is human grade and not a bladder like stated before.. if the seal has been broken and all that just toss it.. that much test is not THAT expensive since it is just 100mg prop (the cheapest of all AAS)

Machine can you link Bonaparte for me via pm for me since i do not have pm privileges currently? Would be grateful if you could. The gear is amps btw and i am really leaning to just toss this stuff because it is not worth the money to get an abscess and deal with complications over some cash. My health is much more important to me then saving money.

[MACHINE5150]

Machine can you link Bonaparte for me via pm for me since i do not have pm privileges currently? Would be grateful if you could. The gear is amps btw and i am really leaning to just toss this stuff because it is not worth the money to get an abscess and deal with complications over some cash. My health is much more important to me then saving money.

I will PM a link to this thread to him, he is on quite often but he would be the one i would ask. Meds do not "spoil" per say.. they simply will no long be guaranteed at that potency, the compound starts to break down. I just looked at my Primobolan amps by Schering.. made 6/2010 exp 6/2014.. So that is how long they wil guarantee that a 100mg of primo is in each amp.. for example a year later it might have 90mg/ml.. a year after that 70mg/ml and so on (THESE ARE NOT EXACT NUMBERS JUST FOR EXPLANATION)

wait for him to chime in, but if they are amps i think you will be fine to use them.

[chi]

I will PM a link to this thread to him, he is on quite often but he would be the one i would ask. Meds do not "spoil" per say.. they simply will no long be guaranteed at that potency, the compound starts to break down. I just looked at my Primobolan amps by Schering.. made 6/2010 exp 6/2014.. So that is how long they wil guarantee that a 100mg of primo is in each amp.. for example a year later it might have 90mg/ml.. a year after that 70mg/ml and so on (THESE ARE NOT EXACT NUMBERS JUST FOR EXPLANATION)



wait for him to chime in, but if they are amps i think you will be fine to use them.

awesome post brother I had googled expired test and saw that in another forum somebody mention the armed forces did research on expired meds and came out with the results that if stored properly the meds will not spoil but will lose some potency as you stated. This is all hearsay of course since the poster did not cite his source since he could not find it.

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

This whole thread just makes me wonder.. It is almost as if you are just wanting enough people to say "it's fine, jab away". But like Marcus already stated prop is cheap and if you cannot afford to buy test how will you be able to afford all your sup's, food etc etc.

52cc's is a decent amount and I would HATE to toss it out if it was mine but I already got burned once from dirty juice and 52cc is NOT worth what I went through! Be safe, thats the best advice.

[chi]

This whole thread just makes me wonder.. It is almost as if you are just wanting enough people to say "it's fine, jab away". But like Marcus already stated prop is cheap and if you cannot afford to buy test how will you be able to afford all your sup's, food etc etc.

52cc's is a decent amount and I would HATE to toss it out if it was mine but I already got burned once from dirty juice and 52cc is NOT worth what I went through! Be safe, thats the best advice.

Thanks peaches but i am not looking for positive reenforcement from the group. Just looking for advice and criteria in order to make up my mind. I mean who would want to throw away 52 cc's of test if it is good? Money isn't the issue here as my health is more important as i stated in previous posts but if the stuff can be saved then i could avoid the hassle of locating more gear and waiting for it then why not?

Peaches what did you go through? Is there a thread on it you can link me to?

[Bonaparte]

It's probably fine. So long as the oil hasn't gone rancid (which is only likely with GSO) and it is clear and homogeneous, pin it. Even if it was exposed to too much sunlight or whatever, it is just going to have reduced potency.

[Bonaparte]

I wish Bonaparte would chime in on this he is the scientist of the board and could help steer you in the right direction.. most gear i see has 4-5 year shelf life, but i have only seen test E, primobolan and deca.. not sure about prop.. the only thing that happens is that the compound breaks down and you will be effectively just injecting oil, which won't hurt you.. after a long time in the wrong conditions the oil can spoil, and then you have a whole other problem. If it was me, i would shoot 1 cc a week EOD and see if i gain anything after 10 days.. Prop is fast acting, you will know right away if it is still good or not.. this is of course assuming it is human grade and not a bladder like stated before.. if the seal has been broken and all that just toss it.. that much test is not THAT expensive since it is just 100mg prop (the cheapest of all AAS)

Thanks for the kind words. But I'd like to clarify that I'm not a trained scientist, nor do I have a degree in any science. I'm just an guy who has a passion for AAS and strong reading comprehension and recall ability (and I've experimented a good bit in my kitchen).

Oh, and the rest of your post was spot on, except that most human grade gear will last a good 10 years beyond its "expiration date".

[chi]

Thanks for the kind words. But I'd like to clarify that I'm not a trained scientist, nor do I have a degree in any science. I'm just an guy who has a passion for AAS and strong reading comprehension and recall ability (and I've experimented a good bit in my kitchen).

Oh, and the rest of your post was spot on, except that most human grade gear will last a good 10 years beyond its "expiration date".

Bona thank you sir for the advice and I appreciate you coming in and giving it.

[Tigershark]

I would just pitch it and buy some new.

[chi]

I would just pitch it and buy some new.

seems to be the general concensus of the group thanks TS

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

Thanks peaches but i am not looking for positive reenforcement from the group. Just looking for advice and criteria in order to make up my mind. I mean who would want to throw away 52 cc's of test if it is good? Money isn't the issue here as my health is more important as i stated in previous posts but if the stuff can be saved then i could avoid the hassle of locating more gear and waiting for it then why not?

Peaches what did you go through? Is there a thread on it you can link me to?

If you would like to know what happened I would be willing to share over PM's.

[Bonaparte]

seems to be the general concensus of the group thanks TS

Dude, no. If they're still sealed and were never exposed to any contamination, the worst you're risking is reduced potency. 2006 is nothing when dealing with old gear.

[MACHINE5150]

Good to see you chime in B.. i was under the same impression

[chi]

Dude, no. If they're still sealed and were never exposed to any contamination, the worst you're risking is reduced potency. 2006 is nothing when dealing with old gear.

pmed Bona

[chi]

gonna be posting pics of the gear later today

[carp123]

I've read that shelf life is normally around 6 to 12 months depending on manufacturers obviously... I wouldn't jab it personally!!

and were did you read that? 6-12 months shelf life? nope your wrong ,as its in amps am assumeing its human grade ,4 years shelf life on hg gear ,your around a year past exp date ,i have seen people use gear 2-3 years past exp ,with it being human grade i would say its good to go but thats just me ..

[JJ78]

Shit. I wouldnt pitch it. I ll take it and let you know if I get sick. I dont know but i would think that in a seald vial or amp in the right conditions should last quite a while.

If it was manufactured in '06 then it shouldnt even expire for atleast 2 yrs right?

[Far from massive]

An ampoule is the best closure available leakage through glass is non-existant so as long as they were kept in the dark they should still be potent and of course since they are prop its not like you are gonna have to pin for a couple of weeks to rate them. I have heard others say it take longer but in my own experience using prop I have made myself when I do my first pin I use about 150mgs and I can feel the effects (increased libido, good mood and increase in pumps) within an hour. Maybe I am unusual being able to feel it that quick but thats been my experience with a single large dose.

[chi]

having a hard time uploading pics on here

[cro]

sounds like its gtg bro .pin it .

gonna be posting pics of the gear later today

[chi]

sounds like its gtg bro .pin it .

right on Cro

[chi]

guys been talking to the mad scientist about this aka Bonaparte and i am pitching it.

[cro]

i definetely take his advice hes a plethera of aas knowledge, might as well make him a mod.........

guys been talking to the mad scientist about this aka Bonaparte and i am pitching it.

[chi]

i definetely take his advice hes a plethera of aas knowledge, might as well make him a mod.........

Cro apparently the lab that the prop is from is no good which would explain the ridiculous pain i have to deal with after the injections. Guess it must be loaded with a ton of BA

[cro]

that will make it hurt more the higher the ba% the more pain .

Cro apparently the lab that the prop is from is no good which would explain the ridiculous pain i have to deal with after the injections. Guess it must be loaded with a ton of BA