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    1st Cycle Questions for the Noobie

    How does this first cycle look and how many bottles of the AR-R liquid are needed?

    Cycle 1:
    1 – 10 Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/WK – Monday 250mg – Thursday 250mg
    1 – 12 Liquid Tamox Tamoxifen (Nolvadex) 10mg ED
    1 – 12 Liqui Dex (Anastrozole) .25mg ED

    PCT:
    Start two weeks after last Testosterone Enanthate injection
    Day-1 Liquid Clomi 300mg / Liquid Tamox 20mg / Liqui Dex .25mg
    Day-2 thru 14 Liquid Clomi 100mg / Liquid Tamox 20mg/ Liqui Dex .25mg
    Day-14 thru 31 Liquid Clomi 50mg / Liquid Tamox 20mg/ Liqui Dex .25mg
    Day-31 thru 37 Liquid Tamox 20mg / Liqui Dex .25mg

    Gear:
    Testosterone Enanthate Rotexmedica Germany 250mg X20
    Liquid Tamox Tamoxifen (Nolvadex) 50mL 20mg/mL
    Liqui Dex (Anastrozole) 30mL 1mg/mL
    Liquid Clomi (Clomiphene) 70mL 35mg/mL
    BD Oral Syringe 1cc/mL
    23-gauge 1.5-inch long needles for glutes
    25-gauge 1-inch long needles for thigh & deltoids

    Stats:
    Age 44
    Height 5'-8"
    Weight 165-lbs
    Body Fat 14%
    Years Training 5
    Previous Cycles None
    Last edited by X83; 02-04-2011 at 12:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by X83 View Post
    How does this first cycle look and how many bottles of the AR-R liquid are needed?

    Cycle 1:
    1 – 10 Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/WK – Monday 250mg – Thursday 250mg
    1 – 12 Liquid Tamox Tamoxifen (Nolvadex) 10mg EDUnnecessary to run this with the l-dex. IMO i wouldnt run either one unless you see signs of gyno
    1 – 12 Liqui Dex (Anastrozole) .25mg ED

    PCT:
    Start two weeks after last Testosterone Enanthate injection
    Day-1 Liquid Clomi 300mg / Liquid Tamox 20mg / Liqui Dex .25mg Clomid at that high of a dose is not worth it and l-dex is not necessary in your PCT
    Day-2 thru 14 Liquid Clomi 100mg / Liquid Tamox 20mg/ Liqui Dex .25mg
    Day-14 thru 31 Liquid Clomi 50mg / Liquid Tamox 20mg/ Liqui Dex .25mg
    Day-31 thru 37 Liquid Tamox 20mg / Liqui Dex .25mg
    A good PCT would be:
    Nolva 40/40/20/20
    Clomid 100/50/50/50

    Gear:
    Testosterone Enanthate Rotexmedica Germany 250mg X20
    Liquid Tamox Tamoxifen (Nolvadex) 50mL 20mg/mL
    Liqui Dex (Anastrozole) 30mL 1mg/mL
    Liquid Clomi (Clomiphene) 70mL 35mg/mL
    BD Oral Syringe 1cc/mL
    23-gauge 1.5-inch long needles for glutes
    25-gauge 1-inch long needles for thigh & deltoids

    Stats:
    Age 44
    Height 5'-8"
    Weight 165-lbsThis is my biggest issue with everything. At those stats you are not ready to be cycling. You need to focus on diet and training. If you feel you have an issue with your hormones then see a doctor because that is quite possible at your age. Get him to do bloodwork then glo from there
    Body Fat 14%
    Years Training 5
    Previous Cycles None
    See above

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    Agree with everything said above
    Very nice work by Noles12

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    So your suggested new cycle would look something like this:

    Cycle 1:
    1 – 10 Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/WK – Monday 250mg – Thursday 250mg
    1 – 12 Liqui Dex (Anastrozole) .25mg ED

    PCT:
    Start two weeks after last Testosterone Enanthate injection
    Day-1 thru 7 Clomid 100mg / Noval 40mg
    Day-7 thru 14 Clomid 50mg / Noval 40mg
    Day-14 thru 31 Clomid 50mg / Noval 20mg

    I think a low fat diet is my biggest issue and just can't consume enough protein to build the mass needed. Also most of my body fat count seems to be in the mid section.

    I just had some blood work done yesterday but won't have the results for a week or so and I'll go from there.
    Last edited by X83; 02-04-2011 at 11:15 AM.

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    again you dont need nolva on cycle the l-dex should keep estro in check preventing gyno, only start the nolva if gyno appears.
    but it's your cycle and you need to do what makes you comfortable.
    good luck
    mb

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    Okay thanx... just corrected the first cycle to L-dex and will probably use the pill form on the Clomid & Noval to keep the cost down.

    I'll order some extra Noval in case the gyno appears to use in the first cycle if needed.

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    Another stupid question... if a 30mL bottle of LiquidDex (Anatrozole) at 1mg/mL should last approximately 120-days at 0.25mg doses?

    Also would there be any real good advantage using Liquid Stane exemestane (Aromasin) in place of the L-dex during the first cycle or is it just four times the cost?
    Last edited by X83; 02-04-2011 at 11:27 AM.

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    Aromasin is potentially better but for me a-dex gets the job done. Therefore i go for the a-dex.

    And yes you are correct about the number of doses

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