gyno symptoms 11 days into cycle please help me

[karen]

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[dec11]

stop cycle and run pct, you are too young and wont get any advice from anyone with any credit on here

[karen]

stop cycle and run pct, you are too young and wont get any advice from anyone with any credit on here

for real ? I'm just gonna say 40mgs a day until I get the letro or until someone will give me a proper dosage or I can find an answer this question had to have been answered somewhere

I just want some help with gyno I've read Marcus' posts of what might happen to me if I juice before 25. I've seen you saying a lot of the same thing to other people my age I mean I think you're just trying to look out for people but I'm still gonna do it

[dec11]

for real ? I'm just gonna say 40mgs a day until I get the letro or until someone will give me a proper dosage or I can find an answer this question had to have been answered somewhere

I just want some help with gyno I've read Marcus' posts of what might happen to me if I juice before 25. I've seen you saying a lot of the same thing to other people my age I mean I think you're just trying to look out for people but I'm still gonna do it

its called being responsible, everybody your age and around tht age are advised NOT to cycle then get miffed when we dont advise when the shit starts hitting the fan. why wont you take in what you're advised in the 1st place?!

[Roshambo]

Yeah, let's use gear! 18yrs old, dude, you have no Idea what your doing! Not enough sense to realize that your vanity may end up costing you the ultimate price! What if your hpta shuts down? There are so many risks to use at that young age that the best advice to give is to stop using, go on a pct and forget about juicing until your older, it's not the way to do things.

[layeazy]

yeah its not that great to read bud 18 still grow so much natural growth and test i cant see to understand why a little bit of size can mean so much with all the risks associated with use...

[SlimJoe]

Some people just need to do a lot more research

[karen]

its called being responsible, everybody your age and around tht age are advised NOT to cycle then get miffed when we dont advise when the shit starts hitting the fan. why wont you take in what you're advised in the 1st place?!

I'm not trying to get into an argument with you or anyone here sir. I just don't think the risks of juicing early outweigh the benefits is all. I know some other people might not feel this way and I can understand that. I just don't care about trt/hair loss/impotence/etc.

and I think it's just the risk of hpta shutdown in my case because everybody still faces the aforementioned risks and even if you're 25+ you still might end up on trt

[Roshambo]

At 18, he doesn't need research, he needs to finish maturing and reach his natural limit before he ever thinks about using. All this because of either a girl or to be better than someone else. He has not weighed the risks, nor has he thought about the long term effects and risks involved with using at that age.

[dec11]

I'm not trying to get into an argument with you or anyone here sir. I just don't think the risks of juicing early outweigh the benefits is all. I know some other people might not feel this way and I can understand that. I just don't care about trt/hair loss/impotence/etc.

and I think it's just the risk of hpta shutdown in my case because everybody still faces the aforementioned risks and even if you're 25+ you still might end up on trt

ok, you just carry on then. good luck

[layeazy]

well its good to read that you seem to have some smarts in your post..

Just read all the information you can on sexual dysfunction and why your have more risk of shutting down your HPTA than those that are over 24-25..

[sixoner]

bro you're just not even mature enough anyway. you rushed into something consequences be damned and now look at yourself...crying out for help.

if you were smart enough to begin with you would have had your ancilliary compounds and your pct on hand before you even started a cycle anyway because shit happens. so not only will you disregard common sense and advice from those with much more experience but you're ignorant to boot...

grow up kid.

[karen]

well I resolved my question but you can still flame me if you want lol I get why ur doing it

[sixoner]

im not flaming you bro just stating the obvious in an attempt that you will come to your senses before you hurt yourself....what you are doing is stupid and not very well planned out

[shiz1231]

I'm not trying to get into an argument with you or anyone here sir. I just don't think the risks of juicing early outweigh the benefits is all. I know some other people might not feel this way and I can understand that. I just don't care about trt/hair loss/impotence/etc.

and I think it's just the risk of hpta shutdown in my case because everybody still faces the aforementioned risks and even if you're 25+ you still might end up on trt

lmao terrible terrible attitude just for a bit of muscle, stop being so vain and think about what you are potentially doing to yourself. i bet this cycle is simply to attract more girls at the beach. you can see why people say you're not mature enough and you've proven them right

[karen]

lmao terrible terrible attitude just for a bit of muscle, stop being so vain and think about what you are potentially doing to yourself. i bet this cycle is simply to attract more girls at the beach. you can see why people say you're not mature enough and you've proven them right

nothing I ever do is for anyone but me. I don't go to the beach and I wear huge clothes in the gym and out so nobody can even tell I lift

[Dunk]

nothing I ever do is for anyone but me. I don't go to the beach and I wear huge clothes in the gym and out so nobody can even tell I lift

No offense but at 18 I am going to guess that wearing huge clothes or not are not really going to make any difference. My guess is that people at the gym are probably not interested in what you are doing regardless of what you are wearing- leave your ego at the door pal. You should probably stop your DBOL cycle and do things properly. You have a lot of natural potential still, and you will see gains well into your 20's so long as you are eating and training properly. Why not post your training and diet routines on here for more advanced users to critique? I have not used AAS yet, and I am 27; regardless because of my training and diet I am bigger and stronger than most of the novice juicers that I know. My guess is that if you don't take my advice or the advice of the other knowledgeable and credible users on here that are offering you a very fair critique, you will likely just get flamed, cast out as a troll, and eventually banned. It is people like you that don't research and abuse steroids that create a negative stereotype about the drugs and responsible users; 'roids would probably be legal if kids like you weren't getting your hands on them.

[Dunk]

its called being responsible, everybody your age and around tht age are advised NOT to cycle then get miffed when we dont advise when the shit starts hitting the fan. why wont you take in what you're advised in the 1st place?!

I respect everything you are saying and agree completely.

[dec11]

No offense but at 18 I am going to guess that wearing huge clothes or not are not really going to make any difference. My guess is that people at the gym are probably not interested in what you are doing regardless of what you are wearing- leave your ego at the door pal. You should probably stop your DBOL cycle and do things properly. You have a lot of natural potential still, and you will see gains well into your 20's so long as you are eating and training properly. Why not post your training and diet routines on here for more advanced users to critique? I have not used AAS yet, and I am 27; regardless because of my training and diet I am bigger and stronger than most of the novice juicers that I know. My guess is that if you don't take my advice or the advice of the other knowledgeable and credible users on here that are offering you a very fair critique, you will likely just get flamed, cast out as a troll, and eventually banned. It is people like you that don't research and abuse steroids that create a negative stereotype about the drugs and responsible users; 'roids would probably be legal if kids like you weren't getting your hands on them.

very very good post, especially the bolds. i didnt use until i was 31 and still progressed with alot of success in plifting between 17 and 31

[karen]

No offense but at 18 I am going to guess that wearing huge clothes or not are not really going to make any difference. My guess is that people at the gym are probably not interested in what you are doing regardless of what you are wearing- leave your ego at the door pal. You should probably stop your DBOL cycle and do things properly. You have a lot of natural potential still, and you will see gains well into your 20's so long as you are eating and training properly. Why not post your training and diet routines on here for more advanced users to critique? I have not used AAS yet, and I am 27; regardless because of my training and diet I am bigger and stronger than most of the novice juicers that I know. My guess is that if you don't take my advice or the advice of the other knowledgeable and credible users on here that are offering you a very fair critique, you will likely just get flamed, cast out as a troll, and eventually banned. It is people like you that don't research and abuse steroids that create a negative stereotype about the drugs and responsible users; 'roids would probably be legal if kids like you weren't getting your hands on them.

well I have to get my pct still so if I stop now I still have two weeks until I would be taking it anyways and I'll have it before then. Is there even a point in stopping now since I'm already 11 days in ?

Edit** tomorrow I am supposed to take a 4th shot would I still take it or no ??

How am I going to run the letrozole to try and get rid of the gyno if I'm not on cycle ?

[Dunk]

Go and see your family doctor, and explain to him what you are doing. Get your blood tested etc. and hopefully your doctor can refer you to see an endocrinologist.

[Dunk]

very very good post, especially the bolds. i didnt use until i was 31 and still progressed with alot of success in plifting between 17 and 31

Thanks dec11, you really can go far naturally. What separates the kid users from the ones that start when they are much older is simply dedication. Instant gratification comes with severe consequences.

[Far from massive]

Invision, let me just add one thing too this thread. If you are going to use AAS at 18-21 no one can stop you. That said anyone using AAS needs to have a good knowlege base on AAS usage and the incorporation of ancilliary drugs both for PCT and to deal with things that may crop up while using like excess fluid retention all the way to gyno.

Stop the cycle now, run PCT ( there are many, many threads on PCT and treatment of Gyno on the board all you gotta do is look) after you have run your PCT take the time to read up on Priming for a cycle ( this will ensure maximum gains during the cycle) as well as how to eat properly both on and off cycle. If after you have devoted 60hrs to reading about the use of AAS if you still think its worth it to do so at such a young age at least you will have enough knowlege to minimize your risks as much as possible.

Keep in mind using AAS at any age is a tricky proposition with all sorts of problems that may crop up. The fact that you are 18 makes it all the more tricky so you should have even more knowlege than the guy who is 30 and uses AAS.

Its always amazed me that most people would not dream of getting into an airplane or a formula one car and then as you are warming up the motor calling someone on the cell and asking how to fly or road race, yet with something just as serious and difficult (steroid usage) this is essentially the approach many ( not just young people, old people do it all the time) choose to take.

Anyway look at Swiftos thread on PCT, I am almost certain it also covers gyno at some point. When you are looking for threads on a subject for information sake look at the date they were posted ( knowlege has changed and new drugs have appeared since 2004) and the number of people responding and asking questions and its easy to see who the athorities on this board are.

Good luck,

FFM

[lovbyts]

Sad sad sad, another one who was warned, who is experiencing gyno sides and STILL thinks he knows what he is doing and wont listen to anyone else. Just another statistic of the young and dumb.

Quick, move out of your momma's house and make your fortune while you still know everything because when you reach your mid 20s you will start to realize just how young and dumb you where when you where 18 and how everyone else was right.

[Dr..]

this is very careless and you are jepordising a whole lifes worth of problems for something you are going to lose at your age.