1st Cycle - Test enanthate *Please give me your feedback*

[laflsyl10]

Hey guys, this is my first post,
i'm considering starting a 12 week cycle of test enanthate. I have been training for about 3 years. I feel like i need a bit of help, this is why i am taking this route.

Please advise me as best you can. To start off here are my stats.
24 years old, 5'10'' 165 lbs.
8.8 % bodyfat.
My diet is ok, better than the average joe, but i could do better, which i'll focus on more when i fully decide to get on the gear.

Out of this cycle i'm hoping to come out at 175 once everything is said and done. I'm planning on running 250 mg cause this is my first cycle. I'm also going to run test only.

Weeks 1-12: i plan on injecting on mondays & thursdays
250mg testosterone per week
1 quarter tablet of Fincar per day (1.25mg)
1 quarter tablet of Arimidex every other day (0.25mg)
1 tablet of clomid every other day (50mg)


PCT
Start PCT exactly 14 days after the last injection
Nolvadex 4 weeks @ (100/50/50/50)
Clomid 4 weeks @ (40/20/20/20)

*My questions *
1- What do you guys think about the cycle
2- What do you think about running clomid during the cycle.
3- Any improvements you would recommend

Here are my pictures for referrence.
If all goes well, i plan on logging everything on here to help others out.
These pics are about 6 months old, in my log i'll take some fresh one.
Chest - Shoulders

Back

Wheels

[awms]

Well your going to take alot of flack for your stats! only 165lbs you deff could another 20-25lbs before you jumping on gear but since you will prob do it any way I wont give you the lecture but just so you know it would be wise to wait another year or two and eat more so that when you do start you will have reached your natural limit already.

Every thing looks good but take the comid out...no need for it during your cycle just stick with the d-dex eod and keep some nolva on hand just in case you get gyno but you should be ok.

Post your diet and let see what you eaT?

[awms]

p.s 250mg is a very low dose! 500mg minimum is what most vets will tell you so please listen to them! if you run 250mg you will be disappointed.

[awms]

500mg test week 1-12
Dbol 30-40mg weeks 1-4 (If you choose)

pct 2 weeks after last injection.

This is standard

[dec11]

500mg test week 1-12
Dbol 30-40mg weeks 1-4 (If you choose)

pct 2 weeks after last injection.

This is standard

why are you suggesting dbol? if its his 1st he should ideally just use test.
op i think you could do alot more natty, 165 at your height is very light and you could do with a better base to start off with

[marcus300]

Seriously you need to stop thinking about steroids at this stage and concentrate on your diet, this is the major factor why you cant get to 175lbs. I know you may think your eating correctly but your not and we can tell that by your stats and pictures. Even of you did go on steroids they wouldn't do you any good and you would lose all weight gained because you dont have a diet to support the new found muscle tissue.

Go to the diet section and post your diet and ask that you want gain 20lbs and I will guarantee you can do this by diet alone.

[1230981]

lol yeah you should wait, buttttt when you do start id say only 250mg a week of test e is gonna be a little disapointing? idk maybe not but thats just my opinion cuz it takes a good 3 weeks to kick in and all that time your like damn did i get sold some fake gear whens my gains gonna come in! and to me 250mg/wk isnt gonna be all that great alone.

[RaZr]

p.s 250mg is a very low dose! 500mg minimum is what most vets will tell you so please listen to them! if you run 250mg you will be disappointed.

250mg is about 3 times your natural test and he will certainly see results, theres no need to go to 500mg for a first cycle

[awms]

yeah he will see results but imo he will be disappointed. 250mg is plenty to put on size but you only get one first cycle and 250mg of cyp or enth is only equivalent to about 175mg of test per week (due to the ester) which is about 2.5 time the natural test for his age.

400-500mg is a standard first cycle and dbol is not a must but its an option as kick start.

[laflsyl10]

Alright guys, i understand the whole diet points, but the thing is i dont really have a big appetite. I made a mistake in my post, i'm 5'9". Since i started lifting i started at around 130lbs. I'm a good 30-35 lbs heavier. I just dont see how i could get an extra 30lbs on food alone. Maybe i'm foolish, maybe i'm not doing something right. i still like my stats from 5'9 and 165lbs.

[marcus300]

Jesus, he is 165lbs at 5ft 10" ^^^ he doesnt have a diet for cycling.

[laflsyl10]

i'm not looking at combining 2 things at the same time. that way, if i do get good gains on simply test, i'll know what to expect, but i i combine the 2 together, i wont know what did what.

[awms]

I used 375mg my first cycle and although I put on noticable size I was disappointed until I bumped it up to 500mg and really felt the diffrence! seems to be the sweet spot for what ever reason but of course every one is diffrent and every one reacts diffrently.

[laflsyl10]

Every thing looks good but take the comid out...no need for it during your cycle just stick with the d-dex eod and keep some nolva on hand just in case you get gyno but you should be ok.

Post your diet and let see what you eaT?

ok, i'll take the clomid out.
Let's say i start to see some gyno, what are the steps to take in regards to the nolva.
Thanks

[marcus300]

Alright guys, i understand the whole diet points, but the thing is i dont really have a big appetite. I made a mistake in my post, i'm 5'9". Since i started lifting i started at around 130lbs. I'm a good 30-35 lbs heavier. I just dont see how i could get an extra 30lbs on food alone. Maybe i'm foolish, maybe i'm not doing something right. i still like my stats from 5'9 and 165lbs.

You need to re-design your diet and put on some more nataural weight, you dont have a foundation for steroids and you dont have a diet to support any new muscle tissue, if this would sink into your head you will understand its all to do with your diet, you need food not drugs.

[awms]

Well you better get a big appetite! lol if you dont no matter how much gear your on you wont grow!

You need to be taking in about 25-30cals for every lb of body mass in order to maximize the results and about 1.5mg of protein per lb of body mass. For you thats about 4500 cals and 250g of protein...you really should wait bro and get your diet in order before you start.

[laflsyl10]

You need to re-design your diet and put on some more nataural weight, you dont have a foundation for steroids and you dont have a diet to support any new muscle tissue, if this would sink into your head you will understand its all to do with your diet, you need food not drugs.

Hey dude, i dint come in here to ask about diet,
You dont have to agree with me, and i dont have to agree with you. But seriously, gtfo here. I came in here for advise on taking a cycle of test. If i didnt think i be ready for this i would even consider it. I'm old enough to know that this is not a magical potion to make muscle grow, but i feel like now is the right time for me to get on.

[marcus300]

Hey dude, i dint come in here to ask about diet,
You dont have to agree with me, and i dont have to agree with you. But seriously, gtfo here. I came in here for advise on taking a cycle of test. If i didnt think i be ready for this i would even consider it. I'm old enough to know that this is not a magical potion to make muscle grow, but i feel like now is the right time for me to get on.

Its all about diet you immature kid, your dont have a diet to support any new muscle tissue, drugs will be worthless to you but instead you listen to someone who is younger than you and doesnt know what he is talking about. You will learn the hard way and be very careful with your lip or your time here will be short.

[awms]

Here stick to this diet for 6 and then come talk to us...I am almost positive you will put on 20lbs without any gear at all.

5 whole eggs
2 slices of ezekiel bread with natural pb
1 banana

1 chicken breast
1 cup yams
veggies

1 can tunna
1 cup brown rice
2tbs olive oil, 2tbs ranch dressing
mix them together

1 scoop whey
500ML pineapple juice
1 banna

1 chicken breast
1/2 cup yam
veggies

2 scoops casine protein
Hand full of raw nuts
(Before bed)

[laflsyl10]

Its all about diet you immature kid, your dont have a diet to support any new muscle tissue, drugs will be worthless to you but instead you listen to someone who is younger than you and doesnt know what he is talking about. You will learn the hard way and be very careful with your lip or your time here will be short.

Ok, will you relax,
I'm just asking for advise,
what makes you think that my diet isn't on point. it's not because i'm 165 lbs that it isn't right. Not everyone wishes to be 225 + lbs & ripped.
Just because i'm asking about a cycle it doesnt mean i haven't looked into it before considering help online. You can't just always say your diet is wrong, there is more than just diet, what about genetics, goals, and so on.
Thanks Kid!!

[marcus300]

Ok, will you relax,
I'm just asking for advise,
what makes you think that my diet isn't on point. it's not because i'm 165 lbs that it isn't right. Not everyone wishes to be 225 + lbs & ripped.
Just because i'm asking about a cycle it doesnt mean i haven't looked into it before considering help online. You can't just always say your diet is wrong, there is more than just diet, what about genetics, goals, and so on.
Thanks Kid!!

Because you are only 165lbs, your diet sucks. I am not talking about you going to 220lbs you said 175lbs and you would be happy with, if you cant gain weight now naturally at such a low body weight your wasting your time taking steroids because you dont have a diet to support muscle tissue, your diet supports 165lbs!! do you get this yet? so why dont you just stop and listen instead of waiting for someone to feed you what you want to hear.

Ive tried so i will leave your thread, but remember your the one who looks like he's got a 15yr old girls body not me, you on here asking for advice regarding steroids and how to grow because you cant do it yourself. I told you over and over you need more of a base your diet is awful, by your own admission you dont have a huge appetite that's why you look like you do, steroids wont help you, you will lose all weight gained if you do steroids over time because your diet will not support it.

Best of luck,

i'm out of here,

kids lol

[amcon]

Hey dude, i dint come in here to ask about diet,
You dont have to agree with me, and i dont have to agree with you. But seriously, gtfo here. I came in here for advise on taking a cycle of test. If i didnt think i be ready for this i would even consider it. I'm old enough to know that this is not a magical potion to make muscle grow, but i feel like now is the right time for me to get on.

first of all you came here for help... you should thank you stars that marcuss300 is evening taking the time to hlep or stay here to show you his wisdom...

you need a diet in line with your goals- it is like having a race car and not putting the right fuel in you will not go as fast as you would if you had the right fuel...

find a diet in line with your goals...

[amcon]

Here stick to this diet for 6 and then come talk to us...I am almost positive you will put on 20lbs without any gear at all.

5 whole eggs
2 slices of ezekiel bread with natural pb
1 banana

1 chicken breast
1 cup yams
veggies

1 can tunna
1 cup brown rice
2tbs olive oil, 2tbs ranch dressing
mix them together

1 scoop whey
500ML pineapple juice
1 banna

1 chicken breast
1/2 cup yam
veggies

2 scoops casine protein
Hand full of raw nuts
(Before bed)

add some beef in here and i like the suggestion, more eggs in am

[amcon]

Ok, will you relax,
I'm just asking for advise,
what makes you think that my diet isn't on point. it's not because i'm 165 lbs that it isn't right. Not everyone wishes to be 225 + lbs & ripped.
Just because i'm asking about a cycle it doesnt mean i haven't looked into it before considering help online. You can't just always say your diet is wrong, there is more than just diet, what about genetics, goals, and so on.
Thanks Kid!!

genetics = 10 %, intensity in line with goals = 10 % DIET = 80% - SO WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU SHOULD FOCUS?

[dec11]

Ok, will you relax,
I'm just asking for advise,
what makes you think that my diet isn't on point. it's not because i'm 165 lbs that it isn't right. Not everyone wishes to be 225 + lbs & ripped.
Just because i'm asking about a cycle it doesnt mean i haven't looked into it before considering help online. You can't just always say your diet is wrong, there is more than just diet, what about genetics, goals, and so on.
Thanks Kid!!

haha, thats good kid, be a smartass with probably the best guy for advice on this board, see how far that gets you.

you're perception of this is completely ignorant and immature. DIET IS EVERYTHING!!!!!!!! think of aas as only a supplement, thats all they fvckin are, not magic!! they have the potiential to be explosive but only on THE RIGHT DIET!!!!
go for this now and you will put on water and lose it again when you come off and be weaker and have the minefield of a pct. depression here you come

[biobest692]

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[dec11]

Regardless of his diet, age, or girly genetics, I'm still curious about his question about nolva for on cycle?

make your own threads then.

2nd thought, dont bother as your are only 21