Second cycle advice

[bigmac424]

29 yr
6 foot
245 lbs
18%bf guestimate
1st cycle was test e for 10week

Looking to drop the bf for summer, but still enjoy being big. Thoughts and advice welcome.

DBol week 1-4 50mg/ed
Test E week 1-12 500 to 750mg/week Thoughts ?
Winni Week 8-12 50mg/ed

Also any thoghts on adding Deca in here at all?

Ill be taking cycle assist during and the usuals, multi fish protein

PCT Research clomid and nolva
100/50/50/50
40/20/20/20

Any help would be appreciated.

[bigmac424]

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[kelevra]

29 yr
6 foot
245 lbs
18%bf guestimate
1st cycle was test e for 10week

Looking to drop the bf for summer, but still enjoy being big.alot depends on diet then Thoughts and advice welcome.

DBol week 1-4 50mg/edjust second cycle drop to 30 / unless you've done 50
Test E week 1-12 500 to 750mg/week with the dbol, you could stay @ 500 Thoughts ?
Winni Week 8-12 50mg/ed

Also any thoghts on adding Deca in here at all?you could run a small dose (250mg weekly to protect joints from winny

Ill be taking cycle assist during and the usuals, multi fish protein

PCT Research clomid and nolva
100/50/50/50I dont like clomid that high /50-50-25 if i take it
40/20/20/20 40-40-20-20
Strongly suggest some HCG and you shouldn't have to use as much Nolva & clomid
Any help would be appreciated.

Just my 2 pennies. You really don’t have to add that many compounds to have a successful 2nd cycle. It is better to keep things simple. At your age you could run the Test only again and basing from previous gains either run 500mg or the 750mg weekly.
Good luck

[magic32]

10 wks was scant for Enth you may not have gotten the full benefit, and your stats are sketchy.
Dbol is not for dropping bf, nor is Enth the best cutting choice, Winny is optimally run at 100 mg/ED (divided), and the combo of Clomid and Nolva is overkill.

No offense, I'm just trying to develop a profile to best assist you, because this reads like a receipe for failure.

I have some questions:

• How long have been routinely and effectively lifting?
• What's your general diet like (great, good, decent, poor)?
• How much cardio do you perform weekly (mins & intensity)?
• What were your first cycle results (pre/post body weight & bench press)?
• How much did you keep - muscle in lbs, and strength on bench?
• What was PCT (drug and dosage), and for how long?
• Did you use a scale, i.e. what is your bf guess based on?

[bigmac424]

I agree 10 weeks was short but it was my first cycle. I am looking at 12 to 14 weeks for this one. My main goal is to gain and keep 10lbs of muscle while cutting down a little bit of my bf%.
Ive been lifting for about 10 yrs
My diet is decent to good
I dont do much cardio, only jump rope everyday
First cycle gained 20 lbs and kept 12 lbs and almost all my strength
PCT was clomid and a test booster
BF is based on prior military bf% calculations.

[bigmac424]

Any thoughts on replacing the dbol with mdrol?

[bigmac424]

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