Test E/D-bol First Cycle

[crf250rider]

okay guys, I have been looking around and researching all over the net and have yet to find an absolute answer to my question. This is my first cycle so Im sticking with just Test E (10 weeks)and a kickstart of d-bol (3 weeks). My question is do you need an AI at the end of this cycle? I have seen some ppl saying yes and others saying you only need nolva or clomid. Here's the rundown of my cycle and my stats:
Test E weeks 1-10 250mg 2x's/week
D-bol weeks 1-3 50mg once/day
HCG weeks 3-10 250ius 2x's/week

PCT
nolva weeks 11-14 20mg once/day
**aromisin weeks 11-14 25 mg once/day??

Im going to have Letro 2.5 mg tablets on hand if I start to feel gyno symptoms also.

Im 26 yrs old, 5'10", 185 lbs, 10-12% bf, and have been an avid weightlifter for 4-5 years. My goals for this cycle are too gain some mass. I have a very clean diet and eat every 3 hours religiously.

What do you guys think about this as a first cycle? I wasn't going to use D-bol but I was reading a lot of ppl use that at the beginning of a Test E only cycle since the test is a longer esther. I also read that some ppl wait 2 weeks after the last test shot before starting the PCT and others were saying start it right away. What do yall think? I havent bought anything yet so I'm completely open to changing some things around if yall think I should.

[kelevra]

okay guys, I have been looking around and researching all over the net and have yet to find an absolute answer to my question. This is my first cycle so Im sticking with just Test E (10 weeks)and a kickstart of d-bol (3 weeks). not needed My question is do you need an AI at the end of this cycle? I have seen some ppl saying yesyes some do and no some don't, good idea to have on hand and others saying you only need nolva or clomid.I say HCG before clomid Here's the rundown of my cycle and my stats:
Test E weeks 1-10 250mg 2x's/week
D-bol weeks 1-3 50mg once/dayskip, save for second cycle
HCG weeks 3-10 250ius 2x's/weekOH, great, didn;t see this when commented above

PCT
nolva weeks 11-14 20mg once/day go 40mg first 7 days
**aromisin weeks 11-14 25 mg once/day??might be able to get by with 12.5mg

Im going to have Letro 2.5 mg tablets on hand if I start to feel gyno symptoms also.use the Aromsisin to keep in check or Nolva, Letro to harsh

Im 26 yrs old, 5'10", 185 lbs, 10-12% bf, and have been an avid weightlifter for 4-5 years. My goals for this cycle are too gain some mass. I have a very clean diet and eat every 3 hours religiously.

What do you guys think about this as a first cycle? I wasn't going to use D-bol but I was reading a lot of ppl use that at the beginning of a Test E only cycle since the test is a longer esther.You will feel Dbol faster, but you will not get much benefit for taking it for 3 weeks. IMO you will start to feel your strength decrease rapidly even on Test. Test alone is perfect for 1st cycle. Just because you don't feel it in 3 days dose not many it isn't providing gains I also read that some ppl wait 2 weeks after the last test shot before starting the PCT and others were saying start it right away. What do yall think? I havent bought anything yet so I'm completely open to changing some things around if yall think I should.

Lots of opinions for sure. Mine is to continue to run your HCG 7 days after last Test pin and then begin Nolva treatment on the 8th day.

[crf250rider]

thanks for the response kelevra. Ill skip the d-bol on this one and take your ideas on the pct.

[kelevra]

PCT is like everything else. Some recover terribly and others easily. You have to find what works for you. As PCT meds can be bad for health as well. Nolva, Clomid, LEtro & ETC can be pretty tuff on your system over time. You want to get recovered, but you don’t want to overdo it.
Swifto’s thread for PCT and Ronnie Rowland’s threads have some very good useful info of the positives and negatives.

[5x10]

i would wait at least 3 weeks before starting your nolva/clomid
you can run the hcg during that time, but stop 5 days prior to serms(use an AI (aromasin)until serms start)
i would run your serms for 5 weeks, 20mgs nolva/25mgs clomid

check out this steroid half life calculator, great in determining when to start your pct
http://pct.befit4free.net/index.php

[kelevra]

^^^^^ no

[5x10]

^^^^^ no

care to elaborate on what you disagree with?
other than the start time for serms(which is math), the rest if from swiftos pct protocol

i see in another thread that its the start time of serms that you disagree with
try out the calculator, if you start serms 2 weeks after last shot, you will have aprox 291mgs of test left in your system
so unless im not understanding the process of serms correctly, wouldnt that first week to 1.5 weeks be a complete waste?