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    Questions about 1st timer?

    My gear came in yesteday no sure if its legit, but wont know til i do it. Here's my plan .

    Test Prop/ EQ300(surpposed to be a blend) wks 1-12 500-600mgs a week
    Liqdiex wks 1-12 Kinda high BF so just in case
    Winstrol or Anavar wks 1-12 Not sure of dosage please help?

    PCT Nova wks 14-18 20/20/20/10

    wrking out m/t/t/f Hour&1/2 With Trainer



    Am i leaving out anything?? Any help is greatly appreciated!

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    pct needs to be adjusted very weak.1st time should be test e only.this is not a good 1st cycle.id leave out the orals on this one.

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    If you shoot the prop and get a nice hard painful bump where you pin then chances are its real.

    I don't believe you need to leave the winny or var out though they are already weak enough compounds so I don't think its a "bad" first cycle.
    If you had wrote dbol/test/deca then I'd say thats too much. Just fix the pct like cro said its too weak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herpaderp View Post
    If you shoot the prop and get a nice hard painful bump where you pin then chances are its real.
    if it hurts at all... probably real. hard bump?? idk about that. that is if you had some gear leak into the sub-q ... bad injection practices. you probably just notice it more than a longer ester like cyp or enth because you have to pin ed or eod.

    anyways.. way to much gear for a first cycle. treat it like fa science experiment... too many variables means you don't know what gave you which result or which side effect. one thing at a time... see what happens, then start adding. since everybody reacts differently to gear... you can't just follow someone elses stack... and expect for your results and sides to be the same.

    pct is not good. look up on the edu threads for some pct stuff... swifto has a good one i believe

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    bro your 18 WTF
    Quote Originally Posted by Herpaderp View Post
    If you shoot the prop and get a nice hard painful bump where you pin then chances are its real.

    I don't believe you need to leave the winny or var out though they are already weak enough compounds so I don't think its a "bad" first cycle.
    If you had wrote dbol/test/deca then I'd say thats too much. Just fix the pct like cro said its too weak.

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    lol 18 is just what I put in when I registered.

    I'm 32 and can submit pics if need be. I'm sure I don't know as much as you guys when it comes to cycling but I do know quite a bit. And I dont
    see any logical reason why he can't add winny or var to his first cycle. They're not strong compounds, and I personally don't see why what the big
    deal is. If I'm wrong I apologize, but it really seems like nitpicking.

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    i dont know as much as some of the members but ive been studying for a bit.only ran 1 cycle so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herpaderp View Post
    lol 18 is just what I put in when I registered.

    I'm 32 and can submit pics if need be. I'm sure I don't know as much as you guys when it comes to cycling but I do know quite a bit. And I dont
    see any logical reason why he can't add winny or var to his first cycle. They're not strong compounds, and I personally don't see why what the big
    deal is. If I'm wrong I apologize, but it really seems like nitpicking.
    Why on earth did you do this? very confusing....oh well~

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    Ok thanks. I'd be curious to see what a vet/mods would recommend. If its smarter to stick with just 1 compound (as opposed to throwing an oral in with it) I definitely don't wanna be recommending something everyone disagrees with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimmerMe View Post
    Why on earth did you do this? very confusing....oh well~
    Because when I was viewing profiles before I registered I didn't see anyones age, so I told myself "it doesn't matter what you put in if noone can see it".
    And I also didn't plan on staying here that long tbo. So I didn't take my profile too seriously when I made it.

    edit: I'll change it anyway regardless of how long I'm here, already causing enough problems.
    edit again: Sorry I can't change it as I can't edit my profile. Think its because I'm a newbie. Hope this doesn't cause issues but Im not sure what to do.
    Last edited by Herpaderp; 04-02-2011 at 07:16 PM.

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    I was going to do injectable winny, Ive looked at the edu section on pct and i thought that what i understood it to mean. sorry if i insulted anyone. I wanna run liquidex the intire cycle to prevent gyno

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    Bro its like this.You can do as many compounds as you wish.But being a 1st timer if you have a bad reaction.And you are doing a couple different compounds.You wont know which one is giving you trouble.Thats why we recommend.Test only for your 1st cycle.But its your life.Good luck.And your Pct needs work.Go to the pct section.

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    ^^^

    x2

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    That's an epic first cycle. I just hit Sust @ 500mg/week and gained about 16-18lbs in 8 weeks. I started off with a BFP of ~10% and it had only increased marginally by the end of the cycle. I'd suggest that you don't go too hard too soon mate. There are plenty of more cycle to be had in the future. Best to start off with test only. Save all your other gear for future cycles.

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    OP: the general consensus is that what you want to do it WAY too much.
    Please re-think your plan.

    How is your diet?
    what are your stats completely please?
    age?
    weight?
    BF?

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    aight guys u talk me out of it. i'll stick with the Prop/eq blend at 500mg a week

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    ^^ sounds better.....still need your stats please......

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    should be a kick ass cycle.i ran test e /eq and it was great.
    Quote Originally Posted by ArmyRanger1982 View Post
    aight guys u talk me out of it. i'll stick with the Prop/eq blend at 500mg a week

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    Im 28, 6'5 274lbs 19-20% BF been lifting for 13 yrs. Ex Army SF College Athlete. Never had a low BF.

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    Ive got Clen And Albetrual also. would like to run one of the two with this cycle. Prefer Albut due to the mild side effects . what do yall think??

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    19-20% BF.....might want to get this down just a wee bit. Could you PLEASE head over to the Diet Questions Forum and get your BF down before starting all of this?

    It will pay off a lot.

    If I have to go to the Diet Forum then...... everybody does! LOL! LOL! LOL!

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    wtf we just went over all the extra chems are not good for a first cycle. thats what i think stick to the plan run the prop/eq mix only. your already running 2 chems which is not protocal....
    Quote Originally Posted by ArmyRanger1982 View Post
    Ive got Clen And Albetrual also. would like to run one of the two with this cycle. Prefer Albut due to the mild side effects . what do yall think??

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    Ive taken clen before didnt realize that would complicate things croc sorry

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    Can someone tell me what eq is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominick0221 View Post
    Can someone tell me what eq is
    NO.....but u can read on ur own and find out

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimmerMe View Post
    19-20% BF.....might want to get this down just a wee bit. Could you PLEASE head over to the Diet Questions Forum and get your BF down before starting all of this?

    It will pay off a lot.

    If I have to go to the Diet Forum then...... everybody does! LOL! LOL! LOL!
    slimmerme congrats on ur new staff position

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    Quote Originally Posted by bighigg337 View Post
    NO.....but u can read on ur own and find out
    I did nothing came up maybe you can help and tell me where to look

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    Steroid.com homepage....steroid profile for equipose(eq)

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    Thanks got it sorry to be off subject

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimmerMe View Post
    OP: the general consensus is that what you want to do it WAY too much.
    Please re-think your plan.

    How is your diet?
    what are your stats completely please?
    age?
    weight?
    BF?
    2X....stats bro....

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    20%???? and you are training for 13 years... it should be 10 to 12% if you are training for that long... is it constant 13 years of training or 3 months on and 2 months off?? lol

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    Its been constant but I have taken breaks. Was on the shelf for two yrs with surguries. I've never had a low bf even when I was in great shape

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmyRanger1982 View Post
    Its been constant but I have taken breaks. Was on the shelf for two yrs with surguries. I've never had a low bf even when I was in great shape
    So you have pretty much training exp. Then why are you right now at 20%??

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    My diet is not that of a bodybuilding program. I eat healthy but I also eat what I want becuz by looking at me u wouldn't think I weigh 274 have alot of muscle mass I have been wrking toeat cleaner. Aftersurguey I got up to310 so I have been doing something right

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    Damn, you sound like a big boy.

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    In college I was at 285 ran a 4.8 40yd played DE. Joined the arm at 300lbs came out of ranger school at 205lbs wish I could figure out how to post pics

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    Quote Originally Posted by bighigg337 View Post
    slimmerme congrats on ur new staff position
    THANKS Bighigg....

    and ArmyRanger....I so wish you would come over to the diet forum. PLEASE.......

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    Im sorry but 284lbs doesnt look healthy, unless your a professional bodybuilder. Especially if you can cut to 205 at boot camp. I'd say get to 230-240 then cycle.

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    dude, please figure out a way to post pics. its not that difficult. i would love to see how big you really are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PistolStarta View Post
    Im sorry but 284lbs doesnt look healthy, unless your a professional bodybuilder. Especially if you can cut to 205 at boot camp. I'd say get to 230-240 then cycle.
    2X.... thats right

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