Before I begin, let me tell you I have done my homework. I began a cycle of deca 300 and sust. 250 about 4 weeks ago. I read in the steroid profiles that the effects of sust. can be as soon as 48 hours. I have not felt or seen any difference in the 4 weeks so far. I take 500 mg a week of sust. and 450 mg a week of deca. For those of you who might wonder if I got fakes, the deca is QV and the sust. is Tornel. Checked everything I could on internet for signs of being fake and everything appears to be good. My diet consist of, give or take a few, but approx. 200 grms prot. a day. And around 3,000 cals. Carbs are kept to a minimum for bloating. I train hard and get plenty of sleep. The muscles I target are worked twice a week. I have tried the once a week deal and did not get as good of results. The only thing I can say is that I have gained about 5 pounds in the four weeks. That seems a little low to me after reading so many posts about people swelling 25-30. I am 26 yrs, 6'0" 215. I mainly began the cylce for looks to be honest. However, I knew there would be a strength increase. I have become a little stronger but not what I expected from reading the many posts. I did read where one guy didn't feel the effects until the 6th week, but my cycle will only last 8. So, wtf? I want the pumps so bad they hurt. Please help.