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    Upcoming Clen replacement?

    I was reading one of my favorite sites last night (Science Daily) and saw a story on a new asthma medication that improves fat and protein metabolism. It sounds like it burns fat and preserves muscle, but the up side is that it doesn't make the heart work hard like Clen does. The study was small and short, which will lead to a longer, larger study. Here is the story:

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    Formoterol, a new generation asthma medication, shows great promise for improving fat and protein metabolism, say Australian researchers, who have tested this effect in a small sample of men.


    The researchers presented their results June 4, 2011 at The Endocrine Society's 93rd Annual Meeting in Boston. The research team comprises members of Professor Ken Ho's lab from Sydney's Garvan Institute of Medical Research as well as Professor Ric Day, a clinical pharmacologist from St. Vincent's Hospital.

    Study leader, endocrinologist Dr Paul Lee, focused his PhD research on how various hormones affect metabolism. Of central importance is a class of hormones called catecholamines, which regulate heart rate, metabolism and breathing.

    Formoterol is a synthetic catecholamine, the metabolic effects of which have not previously been studied in people. Therapy doses given to animals, however, have shown that it stimulates metabolism without affecting the heart.

    "We have known for a long time that catecholamine influences the way the body handles nutrients, in particular fat and protein," said Lee." The generation of drugs before formoterol was exploited in the livestock industry around 20 years ago -- to reduce the fat and increase the protein content of meat. Unfortunately, these older drugs also caused a faster heart rate."

    "Formoterol is a new generation of this class of medication. It is highly selective for the kind of catecholamine receptors found in the lungs, and not those in the heart."

    "The new drug is also more selective for a similar receptor found in muscle and fat. In theory at least, it should have beneficial metabolic effects -- like the older class of medication -- without affecting the heart."

    Lee sourced the drug in its oral form, found the dose needed to give a metabolic effect, and gave it to 8 healthy men over a week.

    "Energy metabolism increased by more than 10%, fat burning increased by more than 25%, while protein burning fell by 15%," he said.

    "So although whole body metabolism increased, these men burned fat while reducing the burning of protein. That's a good thing because in the long run these effects may lead to a loss in fat mass and an increase in muscle.

    "In this study, all 8 subjects tolerated the medication well -- without any significant increase in heart rate."

    The next step will be to test the drug over a longer period in a larger sample of people to determine if the beneficial effects translate into improvement in body composition, health and function.

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    Looks promising

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    Be nice to get my hands on this stuff.

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    I'm sure more studies need to be done.....till effects on other than men are seen, and long term effects; but I'm intrigued

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    Im not really interested in taking a product that is used for asthma medication but each to there own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrosaro View Post
    Im not really interested in taking a product that is used for asthma medication but each to there own.
    Necrosaro ephedrine and clen where both used to treat asthma at some point. As for me, i still use ephedrine and at 39 i still get an excellent kick out of it, and much better then any so called current overpriced fat burners on the market today.

    I tried clenbuterol in all its forms, liquid, gel, pills and i never liked the feeling it gave me, i also found that ephedrine works 100 times better and does not have to be cycled.

    Pretty sure that lion will have this available soon. It does look very promising and i would not mind trying it myself

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    i will have to look into this more. i am an asthmatic and am always looking for something that works! and if i get the benefits of fat burning, where do i sign up!!!!

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    similar article on wedMD . this has my attention and i may have to consult my physician on it.
    Last edited by RaginCajun; 06-07-2011 at 02:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrosaro View Post
    Im not really interested in taking a product that is used for asthma medication but each to there own.
    I noticed someone above already pointed out that other things we take were asthma meds too. Many of the drugs we take are developed for uses other than what we take them for. In my case, HCG is the best example. Fighting testicular atrophy is an off label for that drug.

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    I might have to find this doctor and sign up for the long term study He is not far from where I live

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    i'm starting to look around the pharm's here in town for ephedrine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    i'm starting to look around the pharm's here in town for ephedrine

    You can still buy here OTC

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    What size dosage Kawi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtuner77 View Post
    What size dosage Kawi?
    Usually 8 mg's

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    I have asthma and the medication I take is called symbicort. It has for formoterol in it.
    Must be a low enough dosage to not have any kind of fat loss effects.

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    interesting read

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