High Normal Total T and Low Free T: Why?

[math69]

Hi all,
I have my results:
Testosterone FREE: 32.9 pmol/l (from 20 y/o to 39 y/o: 31 - 94)
Total Testoserone: 6.93 ng/ml (3 -10)
FSH: 3 UI/l (1 - 10)
LH: 3.4 UI/l (1 - 14)
TEBG/SGB: 31.60 nmol/l (13 - 71)
DHT: 1.51 nmol/L (1.13 - 4.13)
Oestradiol (O²): 31 ng/l (<60)

I'd like to know why my free T is so low.... In my opinion, this is the most important thing.
These resultats may explain my lack of facial hair and thin/soft skin (boysih apperance, i'm 29)?


Thank you

[lifter65]

is there a way you could convert your free t over to ng/dl or even pg/ml

[zaggahamma]

is there a way you could convert your free t over to ng/dl or even pg/ml

he included the ranges which is pretty much the same cuz it confirms what he is saying....his total is high normal and free test is low....wont change when the measurements change

op, i reckon it could....what has your doctor said about it...other than your boyishness hows the rest of your game

[blacksmoke]

My free T came in below range. Had bio available T checked 2 different times and it fell into low normal. So you can't trust one free T test.

[steroid.com 1]

I don't see:

E2
SHBG
Albumin

Need these as you are either converting to E2 or you're free T is bound up.

Your DHT is low as well probably as a result of your low Free T.

[zaggahamma]

I don't see:

E2
SHBG
Albumin

Need these as you are either converting to E2 or you're free T is bound up.

Your DHT is low as well probably as a result of your low Free T.

internet search confirmed e2 is same as Oestradiol....guess we used to droppin the O

[steroid.com 1]

internet search confirmed e2 is same as Oestradiol....guess we used to droppin the O

J - I thought that as well but the "O²" through me off...that's not "E²" that we're used to seeing.

I bet he's binding up...my guess at least. His DHT is really low and I'll bet his libido is in the tank along with energy levels.

[zaggahamma]

J - I thought that as well but the "O²" through me off...that's not "E²" that we're used to seeing.

I bet he's binding up...my guess at least. His DHT is really low and I'll bet his libido is in the tank along with energy levels.

what do you think he could do to free some of the T up

[steroid.com 1]

what do you think he could do to free some of the T up

IF (and this is a huge IF) he's bound up by SHBG then the use of nettle root extract can be used to suppress the enzymes which produces SHBG. Lower SHBG means more FT and Bio T if aroamtase is normal or low or it can end just getting converted to E2 as well.

He needs a complete Thyroid assay to see how it's performing.

[zaggahamma]

IF (and this is a huge IF) he's bound up by SHBG then the use of nettle root extract can be used to suppress the enzymes which produces SHBG. Lower SHBG means more FT and Bio T if aroamtase is normal or low or it can end just getting converted to E2 as well.

He needs a complete Thyroid assay to see how it's performing.

yeh thats what i heard too...just dont hear it often....are there ANY side effects to nettle root

[lifter65]

also gdevine whats your thoughts on danazol

[steroid.com 1]

yeh thats what i heard too...just dont hear it often....are there ANY side effects to nettle root

Yea man, Stinging Nettle Root can also interfere with the conversion of T to DHT and we need DHT (libido!!!) and the OP has low DHT so this is not an option for hiim anyway. The OP needs to see a specialist to sort things out.

[steroid.com 1]

also gdevine whats your thoughts on danazol

Nothing really. I think it's a synthetic hormone used by women mostly.

[lifter65]

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/EP1079836.html
read that, i know its 10 years old but it caught my interest

[steroid.com 1]

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/EP1079836.html
read that, i know its 10 years old but it caught my interest

Interesting. I've never seen it prescribed in a TRT protocol. It does suppress E2 but other hormones men need as well. Plus, I don't like anything synthetic anyway.

[lifter65]

well since ive been researching about it, i actually came upon something that showed dr. shippen had prescribed it to one of his clients for high shbg along with selengeline, not sure what that is but.. if my shbg comes back high im going back to the urologist to try and get him on my side, hes basically my last hope

[steroid.com 1]

well since ive been researching about it, i actually came upon something that showed dr. shippen had prescribed it to one of his clients for high shbg along with selengeline, not sure what that is but.. if my shbg comes back high im going back to the urologist to try and get him on my side, hes basically my last hope

Lifter - I take 3 mg of Selegiline compounded with DHEA and Pregnenolone in a cream base each day as co-administered with my TRT protocol. This stuff is the shits man and I am not kidding. Not only does it drive my libido to higher levels it increases my sense of well being while also acting as a neuroprotector and mild anti depressant. Anti aging folks are over this stuff and I can see why! I highly recommend it to all men here for so many reasons. It can be bought online without a prescription.

Read this link:

http://selegiline.com/

[lifter65]

sweet man im excited to learn more about this stuff, thanks

[canada55]

I find this very interesting because I too just got blood test completed, with only one referance on the test for testosterone. I'm 51yrs

F Free Testosterone 30.1 (23-82) pmol/L

I assume 23-82 is the "normal" range, doctor told me I was Normal/High

Then I found this referance range on the net that tells me I have low free test like 70 year old male. It looks like your in the same boat too...If your low I must be close to being female.

Male 16-40 years - 60-130 pmol/L
Male 41-70 years - 40-100 pmol/L
Male 70+ years - 30-90 pmol/L

I have no idea who to beleive or were to get this sorted out...from one lab to another, even if they are using pmol/L as a measurement unit the ranges differ from one lab to another....I don't get that......any ideas guys?

Hi all,
I have my results:
Testosterone FREE: 32.9 pmol/l (from 20 y/o to 39 y/o: 31 - 94)
Total Testoserone: 6.93 ng/ml (3 -10)
FSH: 3 UI/l (1 - 10)
LH: 3.4 UI/l (1 - 14)
TEBG/SGB: 31.60 nmol/l (13 - 71)
DHT: 1.51 nmol/L (1.13 - 4.13)
Oestradiol (O²): 31 ng/l (<60)

I'd like to know why my free T is so low.... In my opinion, this is the most important thing.
These resultats may explain my lack of facial hair and thin/soft skin (boysih apperance, i'm 29)?


Thank you

[steroid.com 1]

I find this very interesting because I too just got blood test completed, with only one referance on the test for testosterone. I'm 51yrs

F Free Testosterone 30.1 (23-82) pmol/L

I assume 23-82 is the "normal" range, doctor told me I was Normal/High

Then I found this referance range on the net that tells me I have low free test like 70 year old male. It looks like your in the same boat too...If your low I must be close to being female.

Male 16-40 years - 60-130 pmol/L
Male 41-70 years - 40-100 pmol/L
Male 70+ years - 30-90 pmol/L

I have no idea who to beleive or were to get this sorted out...from one lab to another, even if they are using pmol/L as a measurement unit the ranges differ from one lab to another....I don't get that......any ideas guys?

Ranges are all over the place and you are right it is confusing. That's why TRT Docs in the know start with symptoms first; what they term a "clinical picture." Then they look at labs. You are low but not clinically low as far as this goes. Guys in the range you are in are what I like to call the "real sucky" level of low T.

You need to be optimized but need more BW to see everything including a complete Endo and Thyroid panel and a Doc who understands how to optimize you in all areas!

Are you presenting symptoms of low T as well?

What type of Doc did you see? Does he/she understand TRT and their proper protocols?