I'm new to this scene wana know the rules before i shoot somthing in me please help!!

[megamanxx9]

Well guys im a new member. I haven't even used steroids before. I Thought about it for the longest but waited until i was older to dive into that water. I recently purchased 2 10 ml bottles of testosterone cypionate and 1 10 ml bottle of testosterone propionate.. I was told it was a stack i prolly was lied to i know the stuffs real and read a little about it but i need the side effects and gains in simple terms.
Well down to my point i need to be guided in the right direction with roids. iv been working out about 5-6 years i know how to lift but never got any bigger then 185 in weight which my natural weight is 175 so i figured what the hell if i use roids im gonna be educated about it. So my pros and knows tell me what steroids should i start with. My diets alright i can make it better if i know ill make great gains. I workout for about 2 hours wen i do lift and i work all body parts. im 20yrs of age. 5,7, 177 in weight.

[Noles12]

First off edit the price out of your post its not allowed here (and yes you got screwed)

2nd you are much too young to be cycling. At 20 you will be doing more harm than good

[NOSUPERMODEL]

I would say your a little too young to be doing them. Eat better and keep training and wait til you hit your natural growth stopping point.

[dieseljimmy]

This post is a little hard to respond to. I might as well say what everyone else is going to say. your too young and you need to learn how to eat and train prior to AAS.
I know that is canned answer and the last thing you want to hear. but there is truth to it.
1- first thing you need to learn how to eat for fuel not for pleasure. then you need to learn how to really amp up the fuel. (there is a place for pleasure eating but not daily)
2- you need to learn how to lift for muscle gains. not strength not ego but for size.
3- then add aas. once your body has naturally peaked

[megamanxx9]

well what is the proper age to start cycling?

[megamanxx9]

thanks btw

[SlimmerMe]

well what is the proper age to start cycling?

25 ish since your endocrine system has developed

[dieseljimmy]

up for debate most will say between 22-26. I started at 23(although I stupidly did a deca/dbol twice in college) and think that was a proper time. Hindsight I may have waited another year

[SlimmerMe]

The Young and Steroids
by Marcus300

Due to the recent number of PM's ive been receiving regarding age and steroids I thought i'd write this thread to try and help some of our younger members. Ive also been having a conversation with my Endocrinologist who may give a more profession opinion on the subject:

There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding. Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
Marcus

[Mooseman33]

too young, to skinny, learn how to eat to grow.....
take the time to learn about this stuff..
stop calling them "roids"

[Minion0812]

too young, to skinny, learn how to eat to grow.....
take the time to learn about this stuff..
stop calling them "roids"

lol love the last comment!