Equip or test

[NotConvincedYet]

Hello all,

First up, my stats...

34 yo
6 foot (183cm)
183lbs
Training for 18 years (started at 140lbs). At the moment I am still completely natural
BF 12%

Training 4-6 days a week. Just finished strength phase, and moving in to hypertrophy, so using more supersets and keeping muscles under tension for longer periods to stimulate new growth.

I'd need a book to explain all the things with diet I have tried over 18 years. I recently tried Maro Pasqualie's recommendations (he wrote the anabolic solution for those who are unaware - good read!) using 4500 cals. I have tried 2500 calories to 4500 cals, all in different macronutrient combo's. At 34 and finding it very very hard to put on muscle I am now exploring other options.

I am currently doing my research in to my first cycle and would like experienced opinions on whether to use test E or Equipoise as a first cycle.

Originally, from reading reading reading, I understand that Test E used alone (with appropriate PCT) is the usual first choice as its a great start to see how the body responds. I don't want to put on a great deal of muscle in the long term, and with minimal water retention. I aim to put on a smaller amount (10lbs) of quality 'hard' muscle which is why I am steering towards equipoise.

So I guess from that info, is it ok to start with equip?

[buffgator]

You read correct that test only should be your first cycle.....you should never do a cycle that does not have test in it. If your looking for just around ten lbs i would say that you could do that with 300mg of test a week and an ai to prevent water retention if you happen to notice some

[Str8Jakked]

If your looking for just around ten lbs i would say that you could do that with 300mg of test a week and an ai to prevent water retention if you happen to notice some

Exactly, a basic Test E or Cyp cycle and an AI and PCT goodies are all you need.

[Ashop]

Exactly, a basic Test E or Cyp cycle and an AI and PCT goodies are all you need.

I agree. For a 1st cycle these things are all you need if your DIET and TRAINING are on point as well.

[Pac Man]

Definitely wouldnt start with eq. Not because it's not a decent compound *INSERT MARCUS HERE* but because it comes with allot of negative sides.
a 10 wk test only cycle is a good start. You could add some var in the end there is you're feeling froggy. I'm not too much of a stickler when telling people to use one compound only for their first cycle but I do believe you should start your first cycle with only one compound. By week 8 you'll know what sides your test is giving you.

[NotConvincedYet]

Hey thanks guys. Pretty simple answer in the end!

Cheers for your help...