Diet Review

[Fevershock]

Hey All,

It was suggested to me by another member to post my diet on this board. I have a nutritionist, who is very well known in the Houston Texas area. But apparently who you are doesn't always mean you're good as I'm learning.

Anyways, the goal is to get lean and have been running GH at 3IU's per day for near 6 months. I'm having a hard time getting lean ALL the way around. Mainly that lower back and stomach area and would like some feedback on the diet he's given me.

I've made some great gains but I'm becoming skeptical as to my BF% being where he says it is. That's neither here nor there for the purpose of this discussion. My main goal is to dial in the diet and get to where I want to be.

8am - 6-8 liq egg whites / 1cup oatmeal (I will add some ice, Nes Quick sugar free choc, 1 small banana and blend to drink)

11am - 6 oz lean meat/1 cup carb/1 cup veggies

1pm - 6 oz lean meat/1 cup carb/1 cup veggies

3-3:30pm - 6 oz lean meat/1 cup carb/1 cup veggies

6:30pm - 6 oz lean meat/1 cup carb/1 cup veggies

Post work Out - 1 scoop whey/ 1scoop creatine / 1 scoop glutemean / 1 pack sugar

9:30pm - Myoplex or Lean Body MRP or 4 liq egg whites/ Nes Quick Choc sugar free

Hopefully you pros can help me out. Thanks!

[SlimmerMe]

Post up those photos so the members can see you are "close" to where you want to be....just sayin....it might help....

[musclestack]

Welcome aboard. Post your current stats, along with macros for each meal (pro/carbs/fat/calories). You may just be over-eating and not even know it. As Slimmer said, pics would help. All I will say about the food choices right now in your diet is DROP ALL SUGAR (even pwo).

[Fevershock]

You say drop all sugar, and I agree 100%. But what else would I drop other than that sugar PWO? Stats are, 183-185 lbs/ 5'10/ 34 and supposedly 6% BF. He says I can't lose anything anywhere else, my tri's, calf's, chest all that is as low as it can go. I have veins all down my legs, so i agree there. He says I'm holding in my lower back and stomach. He being the nutritionist in question.

As far as the macro nutrients go, I don't have those. Can we not do a hypothetical scenario based on the above? Also, I'm a sugar crackhead, my body will crave it to the point it's upsetting. That's a big issue for me. Any suggestions other than sugar free jello and fat free cool whip? Or sugar free ice cream which really has sugar subs all in it. Those labels are so full of shit...

[Fevershock]

Post up those photos so the members can see you are "close" to where you want to be....just sayin....it might help....

Slimmer - I thought about it at first, but didn't post them - DOH!!

[Fevershock]

Does anyone have any feedback on the above diet or pictures?

[gbrice75]

I don't have time to comb through the diet atm, but based on the pics you're already relatively lean, so good job on that. However, with all due respect, this nutritionist friend of yours is an idiot if he has you pegged at 6%. You're not even close to 6%. Competition level bodybuilders get down in that neighborhood for a short time during their shows. I don't think I have to tell you that you aren't nearly that lean.

In any event, you and I have VERY similar body's. Unfortunately for me, you're a bit leaner as I've been eating like an animal for the past 6 months (and I don't mean in a good way). I'm bouncing back though. Looking forward to watching your progress, although IMHO you are lean enough to where bringing up overall size and adding lean mass would be my primary focus if I were you.

[Fevershock]

I don't have time to comb through the diet atm, but based on the pics you're already relatively lean, so good job on that. However, with all due respect, this nutritionist friend of yours is an idiot if he has you pegged at 6%. You're not even close to 6%. Competition level bodybuilders get down in that neighborhood for a short time during their shows. I don't think I have to tell you that you aren't nearly that lean.

In any event, you and I have VERY similar body's. Unfortunately for me, you're a bit leaner as I've been eating like an animal for the past 6 months (and I don't mean in a good way). I'm bouncing back though. Looking forward to watching your progress, although IMHO you are lean enough to where bringing up overall size and adding lean mass would be my primary focus if I were you.

Thanks gbrice. all though I'm not very surprised with your feedback as I have been hearing that alot ;-(. I'm going to get a second opinion here soon.

It was shocker to me when he gave me these readings. But I have no idea what this guy stands to gain by telling me I'm less than what i actually am. You see I came to him for help getting lean. If he tells me I'm leaner than that's get me closer to my goal and I stop paying him.

In any event, I think you're right that adding some more muscle will help. Which he suggested but said it was only going to be possible if I ran a cycle. Which I want to avoid as I get every bad side known to man! Plus I just spent some money on hair transplant and won't dare do anything to mess that up - lol.

I thank you for your feedback and your advice and I agree.

[gbrice75]

^^ I don't think he's telling you you're 6% because he's lying for some alterior motive; I just suspected he didn't know what he was talking about. After reading your comment about how he said you won't add muscle without running a cycle, well, now I KNOW he has no clue. Such is the case with many 'nutritionists' and even doctors. I don't care how well known this guy is or what his credentials are, he's giving you incorrect (by far) information about your body composition, and irresponsible advice IMO. My suggestion to you is to find somebody else to work with, should you feel the need to continue with anybody at all.

Sorry if I sound harsh; this kind of stuff rubs me the wrong way!

[Fevershock]

^^ I don't think he's telling you you're 6% because he's lying for some alterior motive; I just suspected he didn't know what he was talking about. After reading your comment about how he said you won't add muscle without running a cycle, well, now I KNOW he has no clue. Such is the case with many 'nutritionists' and even doctors. I don't care how well known this guy is or what his credentials are, he's giving you incorrect (by far) information about your body composition, and irresponsible advice IMO. My suggestion to you is to find somebody else to work with, should you feel the need to continue with anybody at all.

Sorry if I sound harsh; this kind of stuff rubs me the wrong way!

No worries bro. I understand what you're saying and where you're coming from on this. That's my plan, to quit seeing him. I'll keep you guys updated...

[Windex]

Too many meals have carbs. Your 6 meals should be broken down like this: First meal of the day = Protein + Carbs. Preworkout = Protein + Carbs. Postworkout = Protein + Carbs. Your other 3 meals should be Protein + Fats. The protein in the last meal of the day should be casein. This would include Casein Powder, lean cuts of steak, and cottage cheese.

You also need to figure out your TDEE. To do this use the thread : http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ead&highlight=

[Fevershock]

Too many meals have carbs. Your 6 meals should be broken down like this: First meal of the day = Protein + Carbs. Preworkout = Protein + Carbs. Postworkout = Protein + Carbs. Your other 3 meals should be Protein + Fats. The protein in the last meal of the day should be casein. This would include Casein Powder, lean cuts of steak, and cottage cheese.

You also need to figure out your TDEE. To do this use the thread : http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ead&highlight=

Interesting take Windex. I was told in order to get lean, I was supposed to reduce my fat intake. How did you come out with the fact that I need to increase it? Thanks in advance for your reply.

[gbrice75]

Too many meals have carbs. Your 6 meals should be broken down like this: First meal of the day = Protein + Carbs. Preworkout = Protein + Carbs. Postworkout = Protein + Carbs. Your other 3 meals should be Protein + Fats. The protein in the last meal of the day should be casein. This would include Casein Powder, lean cuts of steak, and cottage cheese.

You also need to figure out your TDEE. To do this use the thread : http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ead&highlight=

Will have to disagree to some extent, sorry Windex. Too many 'musts' here and no flexibility. Everybody is different. Some people respond well to higher carb/lower fat, and vice versa for others. Dietary fat has the highest tendency to be stored as bodyfat, moreso than carbs. This is NOT to say fat makes you fat; overeating / too many calories can make you fat, period.

Personally, on a cut diet, i'm a fan of the am, pre and pwo carb meals. That's what works for me. OP, it may work for you as well and is certainly worth a shot, but I didn't want you to get the impression that this is the 'right' or 'only' way.