Aussies First Cycle! Test Enanthate

[soulfly3]

Hope this is ok to start this thread here! A follow on to my introductory...

So my first ever cycle I am running-
* Test enanthate 500mg a week for 10 weeks injecting mon and thurs

* liquidex 0.25 each day for 12 weeks

* then weeks 13-16 nolva @ .20mg per day

I am 26
82kg
lifted for a good 8 years with the last 4 years my diet dialed in and training program set!

I will be starting cycle on Monday 11th July.
I Post before and after pics, and will update weekly for anyone interested!

Thanks!

[smashingbox]

Hey mate, where in Aus are you? Cycle looks good, have you considered using HCG? What height and bf% are you? I would keep liquidex as needed, no need to kill your estro as it will hinder gains, maybe try .25mg EOD, but I wouldn't start week 1 because test won't get up until 4-6 weeks. Maybe look into nolva + clomid for PCT.

[auslifta]

Goodluck, will be following this one. Have you looked into frontloading and priming before a cycle? Do a search there are 2 good threads about this.

[auslifta]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...before-cycling.. about priming

[auslifta]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ding-explained frontloading

[soulfly3]

Hey smashing im from Melb..
Yes I looked into it and decided this cycle I wont use HCG, and get a feel for it and how the body reacts.
OK so should I start week 4 and go .25 EOD ??
im 180cm
body fat was down to 9% but maintained for 4 months and now around 11-12%

Hey Lifta cheers for the posts ill have a read!

Thanks guys!

[smashingbox]

Yeah mate, I got arimidex and had it ready to go but haven't needed it so far (I am on week 7 of 400mg, now 500mg/week). I don't think you should use it unless you are getting high estro sides (i.e. water retention, itchy nips, etc), otherwise you can kill your estro levels, and low estro can be just as bad as high estro.

I will be interested to see your results, I didnt notice anything other than shrunken balls until around week 6. Can you post up your diet and routine bro?

Good luck mate.

[malidfa]

hey mate good luck also from melbourne

[soulfly3]

Hey guys,
just checking in 4 jabs down and an increase of 4kg little under 2 weeks..
Was sooo nervous first injection but since then its been fairly cruizy!
feeling alot more energized come workout time strength has definitely gone up!!

Always been carb tolerant so atm not too fused about putting on some fat so just eating tonnes of protein oats wheat breads pasta etc
6-7 meals a day each containing 50gm pro and 40-60grm Carbs

PWO shake contains 50gm pro 75gm Carb.

P.S all injections in L & R Thigh atm should I mix it up into arm/butt ?

Thank you

[auslifta]

Are you seperating your fats and carbs for your meals? What are your sources for fats? Are you having carbs every meal? Fvck better still post up your diet in diet section, crucial to get this right for great results.

Yeah throw in some delt shots.

[soulfly3]

My sources of fats are tuna, natty peanut butter im having whole milk with pro shakes (only source of dairy)
Yes carbs every meal
No fats PWO

[Str8Jakked]

My sources of fats are tuna

You might want to re-think that one.

[soulfly3]

tinned tuna... omega-3 ? lol

[soulfly3]

Weekly weigh in today
2 complete weeks down start weight 81.48kg today 87.36kg

Today I dont know if its in my head or what but my right nipple is somewhat sensitive (very very minor) and is a bit of a lump under the nipple itself (which I dont know if that was there prior..) it has got me slightly worried so i have been feeling it throughout the day and its being doing my head in

What should I do ppls? give it a few days and see how things go as it may be nothing or start some liquid tamox ASAP ?

thanks heaps!

[smashingbox]

liquid arimidex is better for tackling high estro, it will kill high estro straight away, from my understanding tamox requires some time to build up to effective levels... however, I had similar to you, itchy nips or so I thought - tried .25mg of arimidex and killed my estro... ended up depressed, sore joints, dropped weight and some strength, basically wasted half a week of my cycle... but gyno isnt something i wanted to **** around with.

[soulfly3]

Hey mate, reallllly appreciate the reply!
I just squirted half a ml down the hatch but Ill drop to .25mg for a few days and see how things go...
I was initially going to use it .25mg EOD

please note I have LIQUIDEX on hand...

[smashingbox]

I had liquidex too bro... I think 0.5ml might be overkill... like I said I used 0.25ml and it killed my estro, sore joints and loss of strength, probably put me back about a week!!

See how you go.

[smashingbox]

That was I used 0.25ml once... and it ****ed me for a week!

[soulfly3]

hey mate, funny you say that cause I was ill as all hell on tuesday lunchtime - midnight
I had 0.5ml on the mon then tues morn 0.3....

But I also had charcoal chicken at 11am Tuesday morning and till midnight that night I was vomiting and had runs crazily, so I will put it down to food poisoning.
nipple feel fine atm thou!

My weight will have definitely plummeted due to the vomiting and diarrhea

[smashingbox]

Mate if you bomb your estro you will know, you will feel sluggish, probably lose a little weight (water), possibly depressed and definitely sore joints!


If you are using AR-R arimidex I would just say be careful, it is powerful stuff! start at 0.25ml if I were you.

[soulfly3]

ok mate thanks. So you think not use the AR-R arimidex at all? unless signs of gyno appear?

[meat&2veg]

Sounds like your enjoying and feeling great so far...

You seem to be doing things the right way and I am interested to see how you get on, so all the best of luck and welcome bud!

HCG is a good idea I would say tho...I just finished my cycle about 8 weeks back now and used 250iu every 4 days from start to finish and it really keeps the boys hanging and in good size...

[soulfly3]

Hey meat&veg, thanks bud
Yeah still learning as going, few older bodybuilders at the gym where we train so there pointing us in the right direction also.
I havent noticed much change down there yet.. but only completed 3 weeks

[smashingbox]

Yeah mate, dont use the arimidex unless needed, it can hinder gains and make you moody and shitty etc. Have it on hand, but unless you are prone you shouldnt need it with 500mg/test in my opinion.

At 3 weeks you definitely shouldn't need any arimidex, your test levels wont be that elevated yet (and therefore neither will your estrogen levels). I didnt feel any big effects until weeks 6-7 onwards, but from then on it is good times, if you are going to get gyno it is likely to occur at this time or soon after... but like i said you probably wont need any arimidex at all.

[soulfly3]

Great thanks mate!
Ill post weekly weigh in tomorrow but not expecting much after the 3 days of not eating due to food poisoning... :/

[soulfly3]

Hey all, weekly weigh in was as expected due to my 3 days of food poisoning last week GRRRR

86.40kg down a kg

Also Is the added bloating a normality ? I feel like a bloody toad fish after my meals...

[soulfly3]

Another Week down...

Weight 88.46kg
had really bad shortness of breath last few days so went and saw a doc (not my normal GP) told him what I was on and he said all fine i got a slight lung infection from my work...
geeezzz i rarely ever get crook and im getting hit with everything on this cycle GRRRRRRRR
anyhoos Strength has gone threw the roof the last week and getting massive PUMPS! especially back day (feels unreal!!!) a few dudes at gym are stoping me and saying im looking big which is good haha !

[MikeJonez187]

Soulfly3, love the thread Keep up the good work, im also from MELB(Northern subz). Wheres the pix of the gains?

[auslifta]

bump for update

[soulfly3]

hey guys yeah came to an end last jab thursday 1st Sep.
Ended up putting weighing in at my highest at 91.40
So and even 10kg added.

But there is alottt of water retention and a bit too much fat which I am really not happy about..
throughout the whole cycle I had 2 nights of drinking heavy and one bloody pizza! the rest was clean! but I spose i ate more than I required Oh well...
starting yesterday I have significantly reduced my carbs while keeping protein high and good fats relatively high more so a cutting diet
I know my body well when it comes to cutting as i have cut to 7%bf on this diet (from between 20-25%bf to 7% and only loosing 6kg is good.. imo & no gear either)

I will follow this routine with cardio 4 times per week and get shredded and start a second cycle early next year. with this cycle I will be definately wont be going overboard with
the carbs as they kill me

any questions plz fire away.. I am gonna hold of the pics as I have a few tattoos that can ping pint who I am so rather not + i look like a toad fish ahah grrrrr

[smashingbox]

post pics you *****... blank out the tats!

[boogs]

bro nice cycle - i am also from Oz (sydney)

get those before and after pics happening!

[Loges]

Hey bro, I'm also from aus and on my first test e cycle, along with a few other things. Will be following your progress bro.

[Richie83]

where are the photos/log keep me posted! subscribed.

[auslifta]

Pretty sure he isnt coming back guys.

[Richie83]

too many people are starting these typa threads and not returning... I wonder; if their commitment to even posting a log isn't there, where is their commitment to training whilst using?