winstrol vs tbol

[lard_lad_123]

Hi i am wondering what would be better tbol or winstrol.

my age is 24
my height is 5;11
weight is 164

My goal from this is to gain around 15 pounds of lean looking muscle

ill be stacking whichever i take with enanthate 250mg
these two orals are the two i can get so i was wondering what you guys thought

thanks for the help in advance

[redz]

Whats your bf%?

[lard_lad_123]

to be honest i have no clue

[lard_lad_123]

i just checked on one of them bodyfat calculators and its aproximatley 17.5

[beelong122]

double post

[beelong122]

everyone's gonna tell u the samething. drop the body fat before u start. also with the bf dropped ur gonna be light for being 5'11. I'd get ur diet in check try upping the Cal's and see where ur at at a later time.

[lard_lad_123]

ive been doing alot of cardio lately and recently changed my diet i eat way more then i have eaten before and im gaining weight. i plan on changeing my diet to healthier foods better proteins and carbs and eat healthy. just wondering which one of those would be better for my goal or does it just depend to bodytype

[beelong122]

I see no point in running them really. everyone recommends a test only cycle as ur first. best to wait on a vets opinion tho as I'm still learning

[lard_lad_123]

kk well thanks for trying man i appreciate it

[borkach]

you definitely can loose some BF by just doing cardio no steroids needed!
but i would choose tbol anytime over winny. i love tbol, it gives you lean mass and strength and no sideds(if taken in normal dosages). My buddy took winny and his joints hurt like hell, and kidneys too.

[lard_lad_123]

did you find any water retention with tbol? and by normal dosages you mean like 40 a day?

[borkach]

no water retention at all, and ye 40-50 ed