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    Steroid strength cycle. All input very welcome!

    How is it going guys, been a long time since I have been on here, used to post a lot years ago.

    My question is pretty basic, but first I will cover all the bases.

    Currently running: 700 testE, 600 Deca.

    Current lifts: Bench 425, dead lift 590, squat 500x5.

    5'11-257 lbs, BF between 14-16. I will post a picture also. It is from about 6 months back but the weight has only increased 7 lbs.

    I am really only interested in strength at this point, because nomatter what I do, I do not bulk up like most do on anabolics. That might sound dumb being that I am pretty heavy at my height, but I went and got blood tested 3 weeks into the current cycle (700 test, 600 deca) and my testosterone was so high, it was unmeasurable (reference scale 270-830) and my E2 was only 80 (20-50)

    Clearly I do not aromatize very much, so the only things I have noticed so far (6 weeks in, maybe 7) are a tad more strength, and I am a decent amount leaner.

    I understand many people will say this is simple, I just need more calories, but I already eat until I am fairly nauseated, so it really cannot be increased anymore. Calories are somewhere around 3,500 maybe a tad more.

    I am an ectomorph by genetics, weighing 160 when I first started lifting at the same height I am now, so my results have been great in my opinion.

    Here is my dilemma. Obviously Trenbolone is the best thing around these days for strength and size. but WOW does it **** with me. It lowers my appetite, makes it hard to sleep, and I get pretty moody. This makes it basically impossible to run IMHO esp because of the appetite thing. I already have to take bromocriptine (dopamine agonist) which if anyone has taken it, you know it reduces the appetite a fair amount. I would just stop taking it, but my sex drive decreases a fair amount and I start to feel pretty shitty without it, maybe I should bite the bullet just to get the extra calories.

    I am looking for opinions on what to run, that really jacks up strength. I LOVED halotestin, but even that only raised my lifts about 30 lbs (decent) it ALSO killed my appetite as every single oral does, no idea why.

    I know I have whined about this appetite thing multiple times, but **** man it's difficult for me, I was even put on appetite stimulants for it, which worked well at the time, but of course eventually wore off.

    My source has everything under the sun, literally. So every compound is at my disposal. Basically I am just asking the pros and vets on here which compounds they like, and I am also asking:

    "Why does tren make me feel so god damn sick!?"

    Maybe I just need to run a higher dose of things, at this point in the game weighing nearly 260, with my experience (4 cycles now) I just need to really up the doses?

    I would just love to hear everyone's thoughts, but please just if you are experienced in this area. Thanks so much everyone.
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    bump

    Anyone, thoughts?

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    dude i had the same problem with tren a and had to drop it. Made me feel sick as a dog, no appetite, terrible energy, and just overall like dog poop. It was completely counter productive to what I was trying to achieve with aas. I also had taken some orals in the past like T-bol and experienced bad stomach cramps and overall appetite loss. I wish i had some answers for you but I don't. Just empathizing with you I and good luck

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    No man I still appreciate it greatly, con-solidarity makes the situation more believable now that I am hearing you had the same.

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    I can't say from experience but everything I've read/heard says that EQ greatly increases appetite. As for strength, can't help ya man

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    oh iron addict forgot to mention mix in some b12 with your gear when injecting. That stuff increases my appetite pretty noticeably bro

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    Thanks guys, yeah I am going to run EQ at 200mg, I know people think it's shitty and a low dose but 200 for me does the appetite trick and still gives me wicked pumps.

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    I too am a strength athlete, and am only interested in strength gains and recovery. I'll always try and get those gains as lean as possible though, so me the perfect drug seems to be Anavar. I've only tried two different compounds however, so I'm no expert. Anavar however, was sheer magic in a bottle for me. I went 80mg a day for 11 weeks and the gains were staggering. If you're used to using much stronger compounds it may be too mild for you though, I think that is the reason why it gets so much flack from the more hardcore users. I expected to branch out and try new stuff as my training evolved, but honestly, it was a near-perfect experience for me. My next cycle will probably be exactly the same as my last.

    One note about tren though, although I've never done it, and probably wont for some time, I know a few guys that have. The sides definitely differ from person to person, but at the same time, they seem to differ from brand to brand too, and thats not even getting into different esters. Again, I can only speak for Anavar, but I've already tried 2 or 3 different brands (dont ask), and each seemed to have different sides for me. Tren being so brutal would possibly amplify this issue?

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    Anavar is magic for strength gains for me. I was completely shocked the first time I ran it @ 80 mgs. Strength increase 20-30% and I was actually concerned about injuries.

    Clenbuteral is the other compound that yields incredible strength gains for me. You can read my posts on clen.

    I would never run these two together for fear of injury.

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    Orals ruin my appetite for some reason, but maybe since anavar is so mild it won't be an issue. Thanks for the input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironaddict69 View Post
    Orals ruin my appetite for some reason, but maybe since anavar is so mild it won't be an issue. Thanks for the input.
    I've done two Anavar cycles, and the high-dose one laid a hurting on my appetite, but then again the anti-catabolic properties of it pretty much countered the overall effect. I don't think I really let it affect me as much as some might. I eat to feed the total, nothing else. I'm accustomed to eating when I'm not hungry. You kind of have to be.

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    You look good bro.Keep up the good work.

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    Thanks man I appreciate that! Physique is a tad better now as I am 258 with maybe a little less bodyfat. I imagine strength will come more and more as I age (23 currently) I just am always wanting more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supertotal View Post
    I've done two Anavar cycles, and the high-dose one laid a hurting on my appetite, but then again the anti-catabolic properties of it pretty much countered the overall effect. I don't think I really let it affect me as much as some might. I eat to feed the total, nothing else. I'm accustomed to eating when I'm not hungry. You kind of have to be.
    Im right there with you, but when I'm gagging...I draw the line >_<

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    And can someone delete this character above me with the BS

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironaddict69 View Post
    And can someone delete this character above me with the BS
    Well no wonder you gag when you eat, no one likes SPAM. LOL

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    If your interested in strength I would add in Anavar as your cycling down off the Deca and Test. 60-80mgs should do fine. You could even run it during your PCT as it doesn't really shut you down. Its my AS of choice cause its low on the sides heavy on the cutting and strength. Oh, don't forget the milk thistle cause at 80mgs it'll push your liver alittle.

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