
Originally Posted by
gjames2012
this teste e cycle would be completely reversable on the pct and would return to normal upon completion. a.k.a no permanent hormone problems.Incorrect, the Hypothalamic-Pituitary Testicular Axis Functions on a negative feedback loop, and not only regulates steroidal hormones but also metabolic, sleep, growth, cardiovascular, sympathetic/parasympathetic, and many other types as well. Here's a breakdown of what happens when you inject testosterone(massively simplified): After the initial injection, blood serum testosterone levels(BSTLs) increase activating the negative feedback loop. This in turn causes production of Gonadotropin Releasing Hormone(GnRH) from the Hypothalamus, this in turn causes an inversely proportional decrease in Leutinizing Hormone and Follicle Stimulating Hormone from the Pituitary Gland. Leutinizing Hormone stimulating leydig cells in the testis to produce testosterone while FSH causes spermatogenesis(sperm production) in the sertoli cells and semeniferous tubules. The decrease of these two hormones due to the testosterone spike is what causes testicular atrophy(shrinking of the testis). But here's what most people don't realize. Our bodies are made to survive and be efficient, therefore, organs that aren't needed first atrophy, then can be broken down for energy or shut down completely, as the body sees them as vestigial(having no purpose). This in NOT reversible after a certain point. i have seen and know some teens on them and have had no problems and am friends with people in there thirties who started when 15 and have blood work and checkups constantly and are perfectly healthy and never had any problems what soever.While this anecdotal evidence may seem conclusive, it does NOT apply to the OP, as he undoubtedly isn't the person(s) you are referring to and thus could just as easily have a different outcome. Also, as he is 20 and at a good height, it is uncertain whether he is done growing. Did your friends have gadolinium contrasted MRIs to assess the current stage of their epiphyseal plates? If they didn't then they could have stopped themselves from growing prematurely which affects many other hormone related issues aside from just height. i offer advice on experience and seeing is believeing facts not what someone says or i think it should be.Sorry, but evidence beats experience in this case every time, because you cannot see the changes that are actually occurring in the body, nor determine the side effects, sometimes for decades to come. so unless you can show me an article or study that you producedobviously we haven't done the studies ourselves so you are sure of this claim you make and can support it without the usual after school special garbage then ide be happy to see it.Actually i can supply you with the names of several textbooks, medical journals, studies, etc... that will say exactly what we have been saying, but this isn't a pissing contest, but to start, do read up on HPTA fuction related to anabolic/androgenic steroid use, it's a good start otherwise lets tone down the stupid myths. oh yeah and so did arnold at 15 y.o and won first universe at 19!!!!!!!! and look at him. he is so decrepid right!!!!!!! didnt think so.Actually yes, while his outer shell looks mildly healthy his body is actually pretty wrecked hormonally, and contrary to the myths, he didn't use anywhere near the levels that most people in this generation did.