first cycle question (anavar)

[kingt85]

hey guys,

Longtime lurker, first time poster. A little background about me, I'm 25, been lifting consistently for 6-7 years, and am in good control of my diet. I'm 6' 200lbs about 12% bf. I've always been stronger than I look but the past year or so I have really plateaued across the board; strength and size have been stagnant. I've mixed things up and have not seen any significant changes. I've always been interested in steroids but never wanted to take them before I was 25 and truly felt that I've plateaued and needed some help.

I'm looking for lean muscle and strength gains. I am not looking to blow up and add 20+lbs but rather something like 10-15lbs. I'm also prone to MPB and know that anavar is a steroid that is extremely mild with sides and can help me produce lean gains. I know it is suggested to take test with anavar so as to not shut down but I am concerned with hair loss.

My question is how do you all feel about anavar (with proper PCT), without stacking with test, for a first cycle? What if I added a low dosage of test? What dosage would you suggest to achieve my goals?

[magic32]

hey guys,

Longtime lurker, first time poster. A little background about me, I'm 25, been lifting consistently for 6-7 years, and am in good control of my diet. I'm 6' 200lbs about 12% bf. I've always been stronger than I look but the past year or so I have really plateaued across the board; strength and size have been stagnant. I've mixed things up and have not seen any significant changes. I've always been interested in steroids but never wanted to take them before I was 25 and truly felt that I've plateaued and needed some help.

I'm looking for lean muscle and strength gains. I am not looking to blow up and add 20+lbs but rather something like 10-15lbs. I'm also prone to MPB and know that anavar is a steroid that is extremely mild with sides and can help me produce lean gains. I know it is suggested to take test with anavar so as to not shut down but I am concerned with hair loss.

My question is how do you all feel about anavar (with proper PCT), without stacking with test, for a first cycle? What if I added a low dosage of test? What dosage would you suggest to achieve my goals?

My question is how do you all feel about anavar (with proper PCT), without stacking with test, for a first cycle?
How do I feel about such a choice, 'great'. Many people fall into your very specific demographic, seeking modest increases in strength and size/wt, not wanting to take Test for various reasons. You'll see exactly what you're looking for, and be very pleased with it. However, I should warn you, those who do start this almost invariably move on to Test. I'm just letting you know. Var's results are so good for the virgin user that they simply cannot resist seeing how much more they can improve simply by using Test E and/or other compounds.

What if I added a low dosage of test?
Personally (speaking for me and not the general consensus), I wouldn't add low dose Test, and here's my reasoning. If you want Test's results, which are stellar for the neophyte, then go ahead and run an actual cycle of a solid 500 mg/EW. Var is not the type of compound that necessarily requires a Test base, in that it won't completely shut you down, so it doesn't (traditionally) hinder autoerotic activities, or libido.

Go ahead and run the Var-only cycle, then graduate to an actual Test cycle, or commit to running them both in your inaugural cycle, but don't unnecessarily limit yourself. Again Test is not imperative w/Var.


What dosage would you suggest to achieve my goals?
Var is best (when solo) at anywhere from 60-100 mg/ED divided into two half doses; Test (for the novice) is very solid at 500 mg, but you could get away with a little less if desired.

[kingt85]

Thank you for the great advice. I agree that maybe one day I will move on to a bigger cycle but currently that is not my goal. Thanks again!

[ata1979]

@Magic32 great to see a vet actually suggest something besides Test for a first cycle. I also feel that Anavar is a great choice for a first cycle because you don't have to worry about needles or estro related sides. The half-life is short so if you run into any problems you can discontinue use and it exits your system fairly quickly. Clomid is sufficient PCT, don't have to worry about HCG. Your gains especially for first time users are decent. I think that all the reasons I stated above make Anavar a perfect beginner's choice. I know its against the forum's status-quo but it should be considered.

[hwy1378]

@Magic32 great to see a vet actually suggest something besides Test for a first cycle. I also feel that Anavar is a great choice for a first cycle because you don't have to worry about needles or estro related sides. The half-life is short so if you run into any problems you can discontinue use and it exits your system fairly quickly. Clomid is sufficient PCT, don't have to worry about HCG. Your gains especially for first time users are decent. I think that all the reasons I stated above make Anavar a perfect beginner's choice. I know its against the forum's status-quo but it should be considered.

The cost is very high but how have your results been.... cutting,vascular,strength.. and how long did you do your cycle for on Anavar ?

[ata1979]

I've used Var on 5 different cycles. The most recent an Anavar only cycle which ended in June. I put on 5 lbs of lean muscle (a first time user will definately put on more), I had decent strength gains and definately lost a good amount of belly fat. waist dropped from a 38 to a 36, while putting on weight. The shutdown was very light for me. 100mgs clomid for 2 weeks 50mgs for 2 weeks and I was totally normal. Didn't lose any libido or hair while on cycle or after cycle, but that's me results can vary from person to person.