Is this legit

[ddp2727]

Just got some gear in. Does anyone know if BD makes 25 mL vials of eq. or winnie? I know on their website has a way to verify but it is only if you have the case not the vials? Thanks in advance guys.

[songdog]

Plz edit your thread.No lab names read the rules.

[Srobis15]

Why order the gear before you know if it is even somewhat legit?

[MrJuice]

Why order the gear before you know if it is even somewhat legit?

if you cant answer the question then dont bother replying

[ddp2727]

SongDog, thanks for bringing that to my attention. I have read the rules guess that part just left my memory but i think I got it fixed now. And srobis15, I have gotten gear from this guy in the past and know he gets real gear. This time he has since stopped getting mexican gear (except test 400) and is now getting BD. So just to learn more about the place I went to there website that I found on the vial. Which is when I learned that I needed the box not just the vial to verify it. Thats the scoop, guys. So if anyone knows if they do carry 25 mL vials of eq or winnie I still would like to hear from you.

[ddp2727]

Okay how do I change the thread name??

[lovbyts]

if you cant answer the question then dont bother replying

Future ex member? Maybe because he had a legitimate question. Why reply if you dont have something constructive to add? Follow your own rule.

[Srobis15]

Well its good you asked before you started using it. That was the smart thing to do. However for future reference, please keep the UGL names out of the posts. Rules are to not mention the names of any UGL's on this forum. If you have any serious concerns about some gear you have, its best to PM a willing Vet for the information.

I personally have never really trusted mexican gear, but there are people who swear by it, so I guess its all about your source, like always.

[jtuner77]

Didn't BD go under or is out of biz now or is that B Dis.

[ddp2727]

Thanks for getting the thread name changed, didn't mean to cause any trouble guys, honest mistake.

[gjames2012]

this company went under and is now taken over by a ugl lab who is using there old label design and set up a website to verify them. some are still legit but very few. most bd are now fakes and underdosed or come with just oil and no test in them anyways. source must be smart and have great connection to get legit and properly dosed.

[gixxerboy1]

this company went under and is now taken over by a ugl lab who is using there old label design and set up a website to verify them. some are still legit but very few. most bd are now fakes and underdosed or come with just oil and no test in them anyways. source must be smart and have great connection to get legit and properly dosed.

dude stop saying that. It is not true. i dont know what book you have that you are getting your info out of but it not correct or up to date.

[gjames2012]

they did go under and get taken over. as a matter of fact they have been sold off like 3 times now. and as far as the book goes the book i use for pics of fake and real bottles is the anabolic review books and steroid encycleapedia as well as the book of fake aas. have heard from every book/online articles/ and legit sources and suppliers that this stuff is tampering with fire now. 2 of the 3 sources i know at my gym will not even touch it anymore and urge against it strongly. as i stated if trusted source then try it and good luck maybe its good but giving him a straigh up anser to his questions. and oh yeah i have been contacted twice now since joining from wht i believe to be scammers selling this stuff that looks 100 percent legit but we all know better .

dude stop saying that. It is not true. i dont know what book you have that you are getting your info out of but it not correct or up to date.

[gjames2012]

you should post pics there are subtle differences between real and fakes like the colors of lettering and the color of the side strip with the bd lettering in italso vials are more straight on the tops where neck meets vial than the reals which are more round appearing. also fakes have glossy box with no smooth flat spot for expiration numbers. real boxes have different surface where the lot numbers are and are always printed on. never a sticker, this should help since there is no pic

[gixxerboy1]

you should post pics there are subtle differences between real and fakes like the colors of lettering and the color of the side strip with the bd lettering in italso vials are more straight on the tops where neck meets vial than the reals which are more round appearing. also fakes have glossy box with no smooth flat spot for expiration numbers. real boxes have different surface where the lot numbers are and are always printed on. never a sticker, this should help since there is no pic

they are a ugl now. So the old security stuff means nothing. Someone is making real steroids and putting it in vials with their name on it since they are out of biz. Yes it is not the real original company. But it is still real aas

[gjames2012]

^^^^^ i agree with you . most ugl doesnt fake there own stuff and neither does anyone else. i was jsut answering his question to help him out. no real way of knowing any ways unless used ot tested

[ddp2727]

I will work on getting the pictures up here but I'm fairly certain that they are real. Another buddy of mine got some about 3 months ago, same thing and he is thrilled with the results! Thanks for all the feedback so far guys, and hopefully pictures to come soon.

[gjames2012]

^^^^ if he got from same source and batch and got good results then your fairly safe anyways i would say

[gixxerboy1]

^^^^^ i agree with you . most ugl doesnt fake there own stuff and neither does anyone else. i was jsut answering his question to help him out. no real way of knowing any ways unless used ot tested

Well you can say that with anything. There is no way to tell anything is real unless its tested. But no need to put doubt were none is needed.

[gjames2012]

^^^ if here asking if legit or not then doubt and cause for concern must allready be there. he asked i gave some input. that simple. probably real but now he knows what to look for if not. goal accomnplished i would say

[ddp2727]

Yea Like I said earlier he has always had quality gear, & I really wasn't questioning the gear but more so the ugl if that makes sense. I was more so saying that I didn't think it was real BD but I was fairly certain that the actual drug was legit.

[gjames2012]

^^^ well then i would trust it if it was me but youll have to take it to be sure

[Sicko]

Just a general statement not intended towards any person in particular but it is funny to me how people continue to ask if their gear is legit..I dont believe ANYONE,,vet or newb is able to tell this simply from looking at a vile..There are only three ways to tell if it is real.
#1. Test the gear( Hard and wasteful to do)
#2 take the gear (watch for results/sides)
#3 take the gear ( get blood test prior and post)
Just sayin...

[gjames2012]

^^^ agreed unless obvious lloking fake. bd is some of the best fakes made though as well

[Srobis15]

I agree that this specific company has had alot of scammers use the name, but it doesnt mean they are all bunk or fake. There are always going to be fakes with any old big company name, but it doesnt mean they are all bad. This one DOES have a legit UGL using the name now, and you can get the real deal from them. However with any gear, there are always going to be fakes out there using the same name. That is why everyone stresses so much that you trust your source!!

And I agree with Sicko. All you can really do i test it, or take it and get bloodwork done. If you are willing to risk it, that is.

[Honkey_Kong]

I tell you guys what. You send me this BD gear for free and I'll run it and tell you if it's legit. Then you'll know if it's the real deal.

[Bonaparte]

BD has ALWAYS been a UGL.
You can't sell the rights to a UGL, because it doesn't legally exist and you can't patent anything.
It was just a popular one, so tons of other UGLs started using the name.

[gixxerboy1]

BD has ALWAYS been a UGL (unless someone can prove otherwise...)
You can't sell the rights to a UGL, because it doesn't legally exist and you can't patent anything.
It was just a popular one, so tons of other UGLs started using the name.

yes they were always a ugl. Now its just some other ugl using that name.
Thats why i laugh when people say its fake. its a sticker on a vial.

[upperhandy]

wow i think this thread has moved into some murky waters as far as source talk goes.... i mean what the difference between using a ugl's name and its initials, so long as everyone knows what i'm talking about

how about xxxxxxxx.... i think maybe this thread should be shutdown

[Bonaparte]

wow i think this thread has moved into some murky waters as far as source talk goes.... i mean what the difference between using a ugl's name and its initials, so long as everyone knows what i'm talking about

how about scx, gp, bd, ep.... i think maybe this thread should be shutdown

See the guy right above you? That's his call.

[gixxerboy1]

wow i think this thread has moved into some murky waters as far as source talk goes.... i mean what the difference between using a ugl's name and its initials, so long as everyone knows what i'm talking about

how about XXXXX.. i think maybe this thread should be shutdown

well it was kinda pushing it but, you had to ad the others and cross the line

[upperhandy]

uh.... just trying to look out .... but i guess that's not my job