First Cycle Need Advice

[lozew8]

hey everyone so im starting my cycle next week im going to take prop,tren a and dbols now i want to know will i get a big kork?

and what is the best dosage with that just to correct a friends advice thank you

[brutusthebull]

Pretty vague on what you actually have ! Is the prop /Tren 150 mg. asuming ? If so,I really think theTren is kinda big for a first timer, but it is my favorite and should do you well at 2 cc a week, even though you should really hit it every other day for best results ! I'd suggest 30mg. of the d-bol elvery day, but don't use it more than 6 weeks or so, and I'd use something to help protect your liver with it ! It will blow you up pretty quick,but its alot of water retetion and just want stay with you very well! I loved it when I first started because you'll see a change quickly, but tends to go away when you come off !

[songdog]

Well bro at 20yrs old the last thing you want to do is cycle especally tren.At your age all you need is a good diet.Read the young and steroids it will enlighten you on your thought.

[SlimmerMe]

Pretty vague on what you actually have ! Is the prop /Tren 150 mg. asuming ? If so,I really think theTren is kinda big for a first timer, but it is my favorite and should do you well at 2 cc a week, even though you should really hit it every other day for best results ! I'd suggest 30mg. of the d-bol elvery day, but don't use it more than 6 weeks or so, and I'd use something to help protect your liver with it ! It will blow you up pretty quick,but its alot of water retetion and just want stay with you very well! I loved it when I first started because you'll see a change quickly, but tends to go away when you come off !

PLEASE GET STATS BEFORE SUGGESTING A CYCLE~ THANKS!

Well bro at 20yrs old the last thing you want to do is cycle especally tren.At your age all you need is a good diet.Read the young and steroids it will enlighten you on your thought.

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[TheClinch]

Well bro at 20yrs old the last thing you want to do is cycle especally tren.At your age all you need is a good diet.Read the young and steroids it will enlighten you on your thought.

^^ x3 !!!!!!!

[lozew8]

Thanks for the advice guys ive been on a great diet for one year and three months and now ive decided to take gear its something I am commited on doing since I feel I am ready so I just wanted some tips thats all

[TheClinch]

AAS usage by people with immature HPTA is not condoned on this forum because there is no way to properly advise an under aged person on using. What you are planning to do is potentially very harmful to you. You should NOT do it.

[TheClinch]

Read this article by Marcus300. Closely


The Young and Steroids
The young and Steroids

Due to the recent number of PM's ive been receiving regarding age and steroids I thought i'd write this thread to try and help some of our younger members. Ive also been having a conversation with my Endocrinologist who may give a more profession opinion on the subject:

There isn't an exact age were we all stop developing and growing because this is determined by our genes and DNA, we are all genetically programmed individually and we inherit our genes from our parents. To give an exact age we stop growing would be incorrect because everyone's genetic blueprint is different.The main development of our bodies is up to the age of 21yrs of age but this can vary between individuals. There are parts of our bodies what carry on developing and adjusting slowly up until the age of 25yrs old, an example of this is the brain. The Endocrine system is a part of the brain what is very complex and keeps our bodies in a homeostasis state. Our testosterone levels start raising and roughly peak around 25yrs old and then start to slowly decline, so even though some of us may have stopped growing at the age of 21yrs old, others may still be developing up until the age of 25yrs old.

I have recently spoken to my Endo regarding this matter and he tells me that the HPTA is very sensitive and as many pathways how it regulates the human body, he states steroids disrupt the normal balance of hormones in the body which can cause reversible and irreversible changes at any age but risks are far more if you administrate exogenous androgens during development, this will put you in a very unnatural environment at a crucial time and your hormones should be treated with care especially in the early stages of maturity. The adverse effects can be erratic behaviour of the HPTA and potentially therapy when your older.

I did ask him what age he would think would be the safest as far as risk to damages and he said many endocrinologist suggest full maturation is reached by 25 years of age and this would also give the HPTA time to be established with your natural hormone balance and patterns. I personally feel 24-25yrs old would also be ideal starting point to get bloodwrok drawn to see exact what your natural levels are before starting any kind of cycles and waiting till you have reach your testosterone peak would be a good starting point, for me there is to much evidence over the forums and what I've seen personally over the last 25yrs I've been bodybuilding . Obviously it isn't going to be all 19- 21yr old bodybuilders who suffer side effects what are irreversible but I am edging on the side of caution what age I advice to the newbies.
Marcus

[SlimmerMe]

Thanks for the advice guys ive been on a great diet for one year and three months and now ive decided to take gear its something I am commited on doing since I feel I am ready so I just wanted some tips thats all

AT 20 YOUR BODY IS NOT READY~ If you had any idea how many guys come here begging for help wishing they had never done a cycle while their natural test was at its peak....

Nobody here will give you cycle advice. Please re-think your plan. NOT WORTH IT!