Starting Cycle Today

[dmk327]

This will be my 2nd cycle (well 3rd but the 1 and 2 were pretty much run back to back due to being stupid)
I have been off since June and my cycle history is: Test cypionate 500mg/week, tren ace 50,75, then 100mg/day, test prop, 150mg EOD, winstrol oil based which in my opinion sucked at 75-100mg ED.
PCT history: 1st time PCT- start a new cycle
2nd Cycle PCT: Nolvadex 40/40/20/20 ED for 4 weeks respectively

This cycle is a straight up bulking cycle. MY stats are currently :
Age:25.5 years old
Weight: 205lbs
BF: 13-14%
Blood Pressure: 120/70
Ball Size: Almost back to normal
Libido: hit and miss
Mood: pretty stable
Bench Press: 275-295 ( I do not max out ever I usually work with 255 for sets of 8-12 as working sets
Squat: Work with 315 deep for 8-12. Can pull off some shitty ego squats with 495 for 2-3
Deadlift: 475
Arm Size: Was 17.25-17.5in on cycle and now went back to like 16.33-16.5in. 2 and a half years ago my arms were a jaw dropping 13.75in so I guess a little progress is better than none

My cycle:
DBOL: 30mg/day divided into 3 10mg doses( am, 1 hour preworkout, pm) Weeks 1-5
Test Enanthate: 800mg a week divided into 2 400mg doses. Weeks 1-20
Test Prop:100mg every 3.5days Weeks 1-2 (Just to sort of jump the test levels up with the dbol since it has some interaction due to dbol reducing sex hormone binding globulan.
Test Prop: 100,75,50mg EOD Respectively Weeks 20-24 To downward Taper
Deca: 400mg/week Weeks 4-16
Arimidex: .5mg EOD AS NEEDED ONLY
NOLVADEX: 20-40mg/week AS NEEDED ONLY
Then 40/40/20/20 Weeks 24-28
HGH Blue Tops: 2 IU's ED Weeks 10-34

[SlimmerMe]

HGH at 25? Is it that necessary? You already have a TON of growth hormone.....

[dmk327]

HGH at 25? Is it that necessary? You already have a TON of growth hormone.....

I would beg to differ. I recently had bloodwork done to check gh/igf-1 levels and the result for IGF-1 is: 157ng/mL with Reference range of 63-373 ng.mL. So I a on the lower end of that spectrum.

[songdog]

Bro I cant figure out wat you got there.Are you runnin all that stuff at once!! if so read beginners cycles.You aint going toget it all at once.You grow in steps.So get off that cycle its crazy.

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

But his ball size is almost back to normal...

[D7M]

What's your height?

Honestly, that cycle is a mess. Stick to one or two compounds and let your diet and training take you where you want to be.

If you're trying to gain, stick with test/deca, and really no need to go to 800mg/wk of test at this point.

As for the growth, 2ius of blue tops probably won't do much for you anyway at your age.

[gixxerboy1]

i agree. It all over the place and way to complicated. Also you just got off a long cycle or 2 back to back. I wouldn't jump on 6 month cycle. I would give yourself some more time to rest. Your body needs time to recover.

I would drop the prop from the beginning and end.
I would start the deca from week 1
I would lower the test dose some
And drop the gh. 2iu's of gh if your luck you may see some fat loss. And blue tops or garbage imo

[songdog]

amen

[dmk327]

I am doing test enanthate 800mg/week, dbol 30mg ed for first 5 weeks, I held a vote in my head and decided I am going to not run deca and instead run NPP and start that about week 4 at 400mg/week.
I will not be doing the prop. As far as gh I want it for healing because I had surgery in late march and still have pain where my pec tendon was reattached. The only time I wasn't having pain was when I was on cycle and I attribute this to water retention.

[dmk327]

I am going to run tren instead of deca at 150mg/day to improve feed effeciency and retain more muscle mass prior to slaughter

[auslifta]

terrible idea, stay away from tren. Keep your first one simple.

[auslifta]

you'd probably only need 350/400mgs a week of test alone with a proper diet for excellent results. You would have alot less sides as well.

[dmk327]

I still fail to see the problem with tren compared to deca. They are both 19-nor based steroids so they should shut you down in similar ways especially comparing the differences in effective dosage of deca to tren...

[10nispro]

Tren has way more sides than deca. And at the dosages you want to run it, you are asking for crazy sides. Keep it simple and add a little gear in the future with each cycle.. Also If you feel good on the deca why change what works. Tren will dry your joints out way more than deca ever will.

[dmk327]

All I know is I had the best times and worst times on tren which I ran on my first ever aas cycle
the good:
Hardness
Insane Strength
Aggression
Vascularity
Definition
quality muscle mass
no water retention


The Bad:
Night Sweats
Insomnia(couldn't sleep more than like 4 hours a night)
Homicidal Ideation
Rage
Seemed to make me stupid
Tore my pec major tendon completely off while on it
Delayed/No/Unpleasurable orgasm
Trouble keeping my dick hard
Banging nasty fat chicks
appetite never let down
flipped off the police
ran my mouth alot
always sweating
cystic acne

[songdog]

I can see you came up with this cycle in your head.Do yourself a favor scrap it.Beacuse it sucks!!! You need to do some research.Your doses are tooo high for your experence.And tooo many compounds.But wat do we know?

[dec11]

mate, do not run 150mg tren pd, you will regret doing that much, 350mg pw gives me dramatic results. you wouldnt need nolva alongside adex for estro control and if thats all your doing for pct, its extremely weak

why not:

dbol 1-4 30mg pd
test p 1-6 350mg pw
test e 1-6 250mg pw
test e 6-12 600mg pw


if diet is good and everything else in place you'd grow like a weed on that.

[shooterdude]

all i can say is wow crazy, ur going to put your body through some crazy shiznit

[dmk327]

alright am already on dbol at 30mg ed for one week and test enanthate at 750mg a week(I frontloaded for 1200mg over 3 pins the first week).. I have the tren sitting here and I feel bad its going to waste.. Anyways the test is actually going to change to cypionate bc that is what my supplier sent me for some reason even though I ordered enanthate but whatever I'm sure I'll be fine. I guess I will go along with dec except running the test a tad bit higher. I am looking to probably cruise at the end of this cycle so I really am not planning a pct at this point. Maybe next burst I will run the tren or deca but not now bc I am in school full time and don't want the tren sides carrying over into the next morning in class because I was up all night glowing red and stomping my hoof into the ground and waking up soaked in sweat or fighting with doors or any other thing remotely in my way

[ottomaddox]

What's the goal? to look better?, getting ready for the olympia? It seems great now, but in 15 years your going to look back and say what in the hell was I thinking?

[kbm12345]

alright am already on dbol at 30mg ed for one week and test enanthate at 750mg a week(I frontloaded for 1200mg over 3 pins the first week).. I have the tren sitting here and I feel bad its going to waste.. Anyways the test is actually going to change to cypionate bc that is what my supplier sent me for some reason even though I ordered enanthate but whatever I'm sure I'll be fine. I guess I will go along with dec except running the test a tad bit higher. I am looking to probably cruise at the end of this cycle so I really am not planning a pct at this point. Maybe next burst I will run the tren or deca but not now bc I am in school full time and don't want the tren sides carrying over into the next morning in class because I was up all night glowing red and stomping my hoof into the ground and waking up soaked in sweat or fighting with doors or any other thing remotely in my way

lolol i like your posts, please keep a journal, i find your writing very intersting.

[dmk327]

lolol i like your posts, please keep a journal, i find your writing very intersting.

Thank you... I like to push the limits and go against the grain and test out different theories at times. Life is boring if you conform too much especially in a field of study like this where there is research, but not nearly enough at the clinical level due to "ethical" reasons in the medical community.