Crash after PCT. Please help

[MrO_55]

Stats:
5'10
230lbs 10%bf
# of previous cycles: 3

Ok, so I ran a 12 week cycle of:

1-12 test prop: 75mg/ED
1-10 tren ace: 75mg/ED
8-12 Winstrol: 50mg/ED

I have just finished my 4 week PCT 3 days ago. My pct was:

One shot HCG start of pct 5000iu
Clomid: 300mg first 2 days then 100/100/50/50
Nolva: 40/40/20/20

Now after coming off pct (first time running clomid), I feel the crash. No libido, anxiety, depression to the point of me almost being in tears, water retention, mild tiredness. Ive lost strength and around 5lbs, ive lost some of my drive and motivation and I don't know what to do. I've heard of clomid causing the depression but it doesn't explain the water retention which I'm assuming is estrogen related. Please any help or insight would be helpful and greatly appreciated. I know my pct wasn't the best and perhaps I should have run the HCG throughout the cycle, please don't harp, it was a mistake and I know it. I just need some help

[Dragon666]

My snap shot judgement is that your definitely feeling the effects of the Clomid. I used it once for PCT myself and will never do it again for all the reasons you mentioned. 5000iu of HCG in a single shot was silly, your right. You should have done 1000iu per week, in two separate shots, over the course of 5 weeks. Even if you did the HCG right, you still would feel this way from the Clomid. Live and learn. Drink more water and get back in the gym -- man up, and hunker down.

[ScotchGuard02]

That was a pretty good cycle. The HCG should be taken during cycle not for PCT. 5000iu is too much in one shot it's anabolic. You want to shoot low doses, 250iu twice a week, to jump start testes. As for the emotion responses and water retention, each of us react to an AAS cycle differently. You just put HUGE amounts of synthetic testosterone and Tren into your body for 12 weeks (natural production's about 40mg to 45mg/wk of test). Your body's going to react. Doing PCT doesn't mean you back to normal. It normally takes me about 4 to 6 months after PCT for my HPTA to come back to the normal range. Test, estrogen, etc are not quite balanced in your body still. Give it some time. You'll be back.

[MrO_55]

Thank you both for the responses. I've been worried because I've never crashed like this before.

@dragon it's reassuring to hear you had the same reaction to clomid. Looks like I won't be using it again. Lesson learned.

I'll up my calories, and keep trying to push hard in the gym. Maybe I'll run out to gnc and pick up some tribuls for the time being. I thought maybe I should grab some nolva, but it''ll be tough but I'll work though it. Thanks guys

[gixxerboy1]

That was a pretty good cycle. The HCG should be taken during cycle not for PCT. 5000iu is too much in one shot it's anabolic. You want to shoot low doses, 250iu twice a week, to jump start testes. As for the emotion responses and water retention, each of us react to an AAS cycle differently. You just put HUGE amounts of synthetic testosterone and Tren into your body for 12 weeks (natural production's about 40mg to 45mg/wk of test). Your body's going to react. Doing PCT doesn't mean you back to normal. It normally takes me about 4 to 6 months after PCT for my HPTA to come back to the normal range. Test, estrogen, etc are not quite balanced in your body still. Give it some time. You'll be back.

I agree. Also i dont think it was the clomid. If people get emotional its usually while on the clen not after they stop. Also i would have ran a 6 week pct not 4 with that cycle.