2nd Cycle Advice needed (Test E, Tren, Equip, & Sust250)

[tkone]

Hi all,

Hoping to get some advice on how to stack either all, or combination of, the following gear i have on hand. This will be my 2nd cycle. My first was Sust250 1 ml amp /week for 12 weeks. That was 5 months ago. I'm 33 year old male. 188cm, 92kg's. I've been training on and off for 12 years, solidly training now past 2 years.

Gear on hand:
1. 12 x 1ml sust250 amps (obtained via docs script);
2. 1 x 10ml vial Test E 250mg/ml;
3. 1 x 10ml vial Tren Ace 100mg/ml and
4. 1 x 10ml vial Equipoise 200mg/ml.

All gear obtained Bris, Aus. Am after a cycle leading into Oz summer, so mainly a cutting type cycle.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers.

[WSC786]

First off welcome. Secondly read the rules there should be no mentioning of lab names so edit your post immediately. Thirdly you don't have enough gear for very much except a test only cycle. 1 vial of tren ace isn't enough for anything plus a wouldn't recommend tren for a second cycle anyway. Same goes for the Eq not enough.
So it's test only cycle which should still work great for you. What are u looking to get out of this cycle?

[WSC786]

Sorry missed the part of your post that said u were looking to cut. Cutting is all about the diet so head to the diet section post your diet and let the vets look it over. Diet is everything when cutting.
You should really look into getting more gear you really don't even have enough to run a test only cycle. At 500mg/wk you only really have about 10 weeks there. You could do it with that but with longer esters like Test E and Sust I would go at least 12.
Wait and see what others have to say.

[tkone]

Some good advice, thx. Just wanting to ease into using AAS. I thought between the 4 that i have, that a decent 12 week cycle can be developed. cheers mate

[MR10X]

If you cant more trren then i would start my cycle with 1 mil of test E and 1 mil of EQ every three days for the first 8 weeks then switch to the Test sus and tren for the last 3 or 4 weeks.

[songdog]

The 1st guy gave you good advise.Stay away from the tren not a good idea.Run test only cycle edit lab names.

[ottomaddox]

If you cant more trren then i would start my cycle with 1 mil of test E and 1 mil of EQ every three days for the first 8 weeks then switch to the Test sus and tren for the last 3 or 4 weeks.

That won't work. As stated above, test only is really all he has to make a complete cycle. Hodge podging together inadequate amounts of various compounds, shows lack of knowledge.

[tkone]

Thanks for the comments guys. Some food for thought with good advice. Saying i go ahead with something like that as advised by MR10X, can you mix 2 compounds into 1 syringe and minimize the injections?? i.e Test E and Eq in 1 shot, Tren and Sust in 1 shot etc?
Thx again all

[tkone]

Question ottomaddox re not enough gear... what else would i need and how much more of it? remembering it's only my 2nd cycle. i don't expect nor want to get big overnight. I'm happy to take the patient road. cheers for your time and advice.

[Bulkn]

run 2ml of sustanon a week for 6 weeks then use up the test E at 2ml/week for the next 5 weeks..
10ml of tren A and 10ml of EQ isnt enough for anything.. plus tren is a steroid for an advanced user, do not use it for your second cycle.

[MR10X]

Thanks for the comments guys. Some food for thought with good advice. Saying i go ahead with something like that as advised by MR10X, can you mix 2 compounds into 1 syringe and minimize the injections?? i.e Test E and Eq in 1 shot, Tren and Sust in 1 shot etc?
Thx again all

The reason i said use the sustanon in the last part of your cycle is because it is mostly faster release test and will get out of your system faster making PCT faster,this is also one of the reasons i said to use the tren last because it is fast release and it doesnt take much to be effective.Since your only concerened about getting lean and not gaining much size you could do a test only cycle using the test e first and finishing with sustanon...saving the Eq and tren for another cycle when you have enough to do complete cycle.you can mix any oil based ASS together in the same syringe,i have also mixed water based and oil based in the same syringe....I have been using AAS for 30 years off and on and done 30+ cycles so i had a little experience with AAS...my last 2 cycles were TEST,EQ and tren so i have experience with those compounds in combination.

[Bulkn]

The reason i said use the sustanon in the last part of your cycle is because it is mostly faster release test and will get out of your system faster making PCT faster,this is also one of the reasons i said to use the tren last because it is fast release and it doesnt take much to be effective.Since your only concerened about getting lean and not gaining much size you could do a test only cycle using the test e first and finishing with sustanon...saving the Eq and tren for another cycle when you have enough to do complete cycle.you can mix any oil based ASS together in the same syringe,i have also mixed water based and oil based in the same syringe....I have been using AAS for 30 years off and on and done 30+ cycles so i had a little experience with AAS...my last 2 cycles were TEST,EQ and tren so i have experience with those compounds in combination.

Dont forget that sustanon has 2 short esters and 2 medium / long esters so pct start time is the same as ethenate. I would use the sustanon first because it will kick in a bit quicker!

OP dont use the other two compounds, you dont need them.

[MR10X]

Yes but theres less build up of the slow ester Enathate so you will have less of that in your system,Enathate can take up to 2 months to get out of your system so yes PCT start time is the same but you will have less test E build up.It is about the total amount of test E and the half life,the more E you have the longer it takes to get to a lower level of test in your system.The enathate ester takes a long time to get out of your system,at least twice as long as the other three esters in Sustanon.Yes you can use Sus to start your cycle,mixed with the enathate.I have switched to sustanon and propanate for my test since i have shortened the lenght of my cycles.The only reason i added EQ to the test/tren cycle is because tren killed my appetite and it helpled with that.My first ever cycle didnt even have test in it,it was HCG and Anavar. Back when i started using ASS nobody did a test only cycle,even so a test only first cycle a good idea and then you can add other compunds later to see how you react to them since you know how you test base effects you.I did use orals for a while but stoped using them because of the effect on your liver,there are so many good injectables available that you dont really need orals.I had hepatitus when i was in my late 20's,so when i started using ASS i was very causious with what i took.

[tkone]

Thx guys. You both know much more about this than i do. You can read all you like but nothin beats experience.
Mr10X, what was your recent Test/Eq/Tren cycle? Thx again, much appreciated.

[gym_junki]

You need another 20ml 10 test e and 10 tren, and you will need to shoot the test e eod with the tren when you start the tren which is not a prob you just do .5ml of test e eod.
Do not start the tren unless the test has kicked in, the other compound you have might increase your appetite so you might not be able to diet prob just giving you a heads up.

[MR10X]

Thx guys. You both know much more about this than i do. You can read all you like but nothin beats experience.
Mr10X, what was your recent Test/Eq/Tren cycle? Thx again, much appreciated.

My last cycle was 300mg Test E,300mg EQ,and 150mg Tren A every three days, but i finished my cycle with Test prop instead of Test E and didnt do any EQ after week 6.I know people say to do Tren A Ed or EOD but i got good results with that cycle at every three days. My next cycle which i am going to start next week will be 150mg Tren A EOD and 250 mg Test sustanon every 4 days,but i will do 500mg sustanon on the first shot to get my level up quicker then do 250 every 4 days.If i lose my apetite i will add some Eq but not as much as my last cycle, i want to use more Tren this cycle and less EQ and i may have adjust my tren if the sides get too servere. My cycle will be 6 to 8 weeks depending on how i feel after week 6,if you trian very intense it hard to go more than 8 weeks and be productive.I have found you dont gain much after 8 weeks,people like to do 12 week cycles but i dont think they are gaining any thing after 8 weeks and do longer cycles so they can look good for a longer period of time. You might want to go to You tube and watch Dorian Yates videos,he is very knowlegable and has some very good intense work out videos called blood and guts trainer,also watch his tips video because it has a lot of very valuable information on nutrition and training. I train every body part once a week now and like it much better,he said he trained a total of 3 1/2 hours a week training for the Mr Olympa which he won 6 times. Heres a link to his videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W25lL...eature=related

[tkone]

Great. Am really stoked with that MR10X. Thx so much.

[ata1979]

Frontload with the sus then switch to the test e. Drop the Tren, its way to early for you. Either get another bottle of EQ or save the one bottle you have for next cycle (but don't do just 1 bottle, its a waste).

You said something about a cutting cycle. If you wanna cut this is the wrong cycle. You will definately be bloated.