'everything louder than everything else'
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Scum.
I have no sympathy.
The value of Dale Farm has decreased 300 K because of that lot. They fly-tip in the owners bit of land on a daily basis.
They live off the grid, sponge off other electrical sources, dont pay tax, yet want free education and free NHS but cry wolf because "their human rights are being violated", yet in another breath, claim they live outside the boundries of UK law.
**** them. **** them all. They are wondering squatters, leaching off society. No wonder those ****ers were kicked out of Ireland.
'everything louder than everything else'
oh, they're still here mate, mostly 'settled' now but still demanding their culture and basically trying every trick in the book to get claims for prejudiceOriginally Posted by Flagg
~VET~ Extraordinaire~
i dont really know the back ground of the story to comment
'everything louder than everything else'
basically they are gypsies and on land that doesnt belong to them, the council has been trying to get shot of them and they keep winning court battles to remain. its coming down to a battle of rights and do travellers deserve special treatment anymore? they have their rules and culture which flies in the face of 'normal' civilisation
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who's land are they on? Other citizens land or public land?
'everything louder than everything else'
council land
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I know this is from wikipedia, but this is the skinny of the debate, Gixxer:
2011 eviction
There is currently an eviction order on the disputed area. In July 2011, a legal process that has taken many years and reached as far as the Court of Appeal concluded with the ruling that Basildon Council has acted lawfully in refusing planning permission for the disputed portion of Dale Farm.[citation needed]
On 15 March 2011, Basildon Council voted 28 to 10 to clear 86 families from Dale Farm at Crays Hill.[15] On the 15th September the Council asked that the residents peacefully vacate the unauthorised site, and has stressed that it will meet its duty to house homeless families as the law demands.[16] Because of the size of the site, and actions by the residents and activists, many media reports suggested that the potential cost of direct action to clear the disputed portion of Dale Farm could be as high as 18 million pounds.[17] However, before the injunction of the 19th September, the council said that "The estimated direct operational cost of £6.5m together with estimated post operational costs of £1.5m produce a total of £8m.[18]
On 4 July 2011 eviction notices were served on the families living on the illegal half of the Dale Farm site, giving them until the end of August 2011 to leave.[19] The eviction date was set for the week beginning 19th September 2011 and electricity supplies to the site were planned to be cut off on the morning of the eviction.[20] Basildon council say that "It is important to remember that the operation is a site clearance and not an eviction."[21]
On the day of the planned eviction, a bailiff addressed the residents, expressing health and safety concerns regarding the barricades and the possibly forceful eviction.[22] However, Hon. Justice Antony Edwards-Stuart ruled at the High Court in London that the proposed measures ‘may go further’ than the terms of the enforcement notices, and issued an injunction. The council must notify the families individually about the precise nature of enforcement actions planned against them, and must give them a chance to respond. Enforcement must not occur before 23 September, and water and electricity must not be cut off.[22]
Basildon council said on the 20th September:
The High Court yesterday granted an injunction preventing the Council from undertaking any physical measures to secure compliance with the outstanding planning enforcement notices and also to prevent the electricity and all other utilities from being cut. (There was never any intention for the Council to cut the water supply).[23]
Around 20 caravans had voluntarily departed for a public park in Luton Borough.[24]
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The Peace and Progress Party has advocated on behalf of the Travellers at Dale Farm. The party called a meeting at parliament in June 2006, following which actor and activist Corin Redgrave collapsed at a council meeting at Basildon Town Hall.
In their Annual Report and Accounts for 2006/7. the Commission for Racial Equality (CRE) said:
In 2005, we reported that we had obtained leave to intervene in a judicial review case involving a decision by a local authority to evict a large group of Irish Travellers from an unauthorised encampment on the Dale Farm site in Basildon in 2005. We argued that the council had failed to pay due regard to its requirements under the race equality duty to promote race equality and good race relations when taking the decision to evict. This case was postponed until 2007, due to outstanding planning appeals.[25
And later, as the Equality and Human Rights Commission and the Committee on the Elimination of Racial Discrimination (CERD):
The UK has been the object of an enquiry from CERD under the early warning and urgent action procedure. During its 76th session in February 2010, CERD considered the impending eviction of an Irish and Romani Traveller community from Dale Farm in Essex. The committee expressed concern that the planned eviction of the Traveller community from Dale Farm might imply a breach of Article 5 e (iii), guaranteeing the right to housing. [26]
The media vary in their reporting. According to the Daily Mail newspaper website for 19th September 2011:[27]
Hundreds of anarchists turned Europe’s largest illegal traveller site into a fortress today to defy bailiffs in what they say will be the ‘Battle of Basildon’. Menacing activists, wearing scarves over their faces, launched ‘Operation Lockdown’ to stop the authorities from bulldozing Dale Farm for a planned eviction this morning.
While the BBC say that:
correspondent Fergal Keane who is inside the illegal part of the site, said: "There is now about an equal split between travellers and supporters. The travellers are certainly grateful for the support of the activists. They are expecting the bailiffs at any time and they are unlikely to come through the front entrance. Wherever they enter the site they are likely to be met by peaceful resistance." [28]
Local Authorities used to be legally obliged to provide sites for up to fifteen caravans at a time under the Caravan Sites Act 1968. This obligation was removed in the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994. The Commission for Racial Equality says that this has led to there being too few sites to accommodate all travellers.[29] According to the Commission for Racial Equality, more than 90% of traveller planning applications are initially rejected compared to 20% overall.[30]
A mediation offer by Jan Jařab, the regional representative of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights, was rejected by the Foreign Office.[22]
Last edited by Flagg; 09-26-2011 at 04:49 PM.
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This should be easily solvable. Just force those supporters of the squatters to pay up for the land. That will shut um up. And if it doesn't then make those supporters fully responsible for the gypsies. Any rapes, murders, thieving, robberies will all be made accountable to the supporters.
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i hate people.
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They do the same here.
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x2, kill 'em all lol
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i think they should be jailed on an island and left to fend for themselves..
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