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    question about my first cycle....

    as usual nothing ever goes as planned, i got some advice about doing between 400 and 500mg a week of test e for 10 weeks... split in a monday morning and thursday night, the test e i found is 300 mg per cc... and i'm gonna go ahead and get 20ml of the stuff, so would i just do twice a week as planned at a full cc and just go with 600 mg a week or should i do the math and do the 250mg twice a week and stick to the 500mg weekly? secondly i asked the guy about getting AI and PCT, he has a tamoxifen clomid blend (ea full dropper 10mg tamoxifen and 50mg clomid) its sublingual... but doesnt have the Arimidex that i had heard i should have on hand in case i started feeling signs of gyno... whats everyones take on the matter? i wanna do my first cycle by the book. thanks for any advice ahead of time... the stuff seems to be working this is a pic of my buddy thats already on it, but he does 3 cc's a week which sounds a little much for me, which is why i'm trying to get other ppls opinions plus hes a bit on the not so cautious side, no bloodwork, doesnt worry about cycling off, for more than a couple weeks...

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    Stats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by randysdavis777 View Post
    as usual nothing ever goes as planned, i got some advice about doing between 400 and 500mg a week of test e for 10 weeks... split in a monday morning and thursday night, the test e i found is 300 mg per cc... and i'm gonna go ahead and get 20ml of the stuff, so would i just do twice a week as planned at a full cc and just go with 600 mg a week or should i do the math and do the 250mg twice a week and stick to the 500mg weekly? secondly i asked the guy about getting AI and PCT, he has a tamoxifen clomid blend (ea full dropper 10mg tamoxifen and 50mg clomid) its sublingual... but doesnt have the Arimidex that i had heard i should have on hand in case i started feeling signs of gyno... whats everyones take on the matter? i wanna do my first cycle by the book. thanks for any advice ahead of time... the stuff seems to be working this is a pic of my buddy thats already on it, but he does 3 cc's a week which sounds a little much for me, which is why i'm trying to get other ppls opinions plus hes a bit on the not so cautious side, no bloodwork, doesnt worry about cycling off, for more than a couple weeks...

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    You need to do more research. Do not start your cycle until you know what you are doing and you have everything you need including PCT

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    29 in a couple months, been training 11 years now... 5'7 170 8-9% body fat... heaviest i've gotten natural was about 180 but at 11% bf, i would like to hit 195 or so with less than 8% before i die :-) i have the PCT covered its the Arimidex he doesnt carry and i know not to start until i have everything. the research is there i'm doing 1 compound for either 10 or 12 weeks, now i just have to decide on dosage, schedule, and what to do about lack of AI.

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    i wouldnt use any mixes including pct drugs. order everything you need from ar-r

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    i wouldnt use any mixes including pct drugs. order everything you need from ar-r
    Agreed.

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    is that ar-r legitimate stuff? how is it they can get away with selling the stuff without a prescription? just dont wanna get some stuff that doesnt work and end up needing 5k worth of surgery for gyno cuz i went cheap...

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    because it's in liquid form and for research only

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    awesome... thanks i'll order thru them instead then. dont really get many clear responses on this site i've noticed, but u seem pretty helpful thanks gixxer, first bike i ever had was a gsxr 600 btw wrecked it in myrtle beach after about 6 months old lady t-boned me bad day, my parents were quite upset when i bought my second bike about a year later... do u recommend AI and Nolv during signs of gyno? or just the AI?

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    i would just start with an ai and see how it helps. You do need some estrogen so you dont want to overkill it

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    so ai during cycle.... then nolva liquid only for pct should be fine? 4 weeks worth 14 days after last injection...

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    thats fine

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