1st cycle questions and legal steroids?

[blzngmarine]

Hi I am new here and have been researching somewhat since I was 18 and did a paper on steroids. I had a question on the 1st cycle in the basics of steroids section, it says to use test enanthate, nolvadex onhand, and clomid for therapy, are there "legal" forms of these? that work? I am only asking because i know you can order off the main site these legal versions, but do they actually work at all or close to the same? mainly asking because i have no way to get them locally, and i swear i am not trolling i dont know anyone locally so am trying to go another route if safe and provides results, please let me know what you think of the versoins, thanks.

[blzngmarine]

and on that note this would indeed be my 1st cycle thats why so many questions, unless theres a better suggestion? thanks.

[Times Roman]

Welcome to the board mate

These are all good questions. Let's start with "legal" steroids. Testosterone is a "legal" steroid, you just happen to need a prescription to get it in the USA. The other type of "legal" "steroid" available without a prescription really are not steroids, but instead dietary supplements of one type or another.
You can go here and research steroids by their profile here:
http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...PROFILES-FORUM

Having said all that, i have no clue what your overall experience level is, besides the little blurb you put in your profile.

Typically, at this point, I would ask you what your stats are....
height
weight
Body Fat%
Age
Years weight lifting experience

That sort of thing.

And then, unless I get the impression you've had some serious gym time invested, and your diet dialed in 100%, then I'd usually show you were the nutrition section is, here: http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...RESOURCE-FORUM
and ask you to post your diet so we can make suggestions for improvement.

Next, I would usually ask you to go to our exercise section, here: http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...KOUT-QUESTIONS
and ask you to post your routines to see where you are at, and how solid your routines are. And of couse, suggestions would be made by the staff for more improvement.

Having said all that, I'll let you judge what you think your next step should be.

Remember, steroids (AAS) should be the last thing to consider, after you've exhausted all other avenues.

Good question(s)
---Roman

[blzngmarine]

hi thanks roman times. well ive been doin a very solid diet for a while now, i mean 2 eggs/3-5 whites, 1 cup oats with skim milk and raisens, and 2 cups OJ for breakfast most of the time, then i have 2 scoops of myofusion shake 2-3 hours later than my 2nd meal of either 8 ounce chicken or lean beaf with either 1 baked potatoe, or sweet potatoe, or cup 1/2 of rice, then 2 hours later whatever listed here different than meal 3 for meal 4 then 2 hours later another shake preworkout, workout, then another shake postworkout, then come home have a good post meal of either more chicken, eggs or salmon with less carbs this meal before bed a bit and maybe some lowfat cottage cheese. overall ive been workin hard on this diet and know its a good mass starting point. my workout is also well rounded, i do a 4-5 day split of legs/chest/back/arms/shoulders-traps with abs twice a week. its all the cimpulsory compound lifts i do mainly free weights with some cables. i target the 8-12 range for reps though sometimes may go heavier to 5 or 6 reps. i am 5'9" 210 lbs, prolly more bodyfat than needed, i am pretty buff but you cant see my abs anymore like high school. i would like to lose fat while building which is what ive been doing. but ive been curious about trying a cycle for a long time now and think it would help greatly, i am a firm believer in diet and training to be number one i assure you, i read alot and thats all ive ever heard and made sure im on track before i consider it. please any info appreciated and also on that 1st cycle thanks!

[blzngmarine]

also been liftin on and off for almost 8 years, the current time is just over a year solid with no off time. thanks again.

[xelnaga]

use testosterone enanthate every other day 1ml for 20 weeks and lift alot and youll get big

Crossdresser44- you should not be giving cycle advice PERIOD.

[xelnaga]

I am here to share what I know

That much is obvious LOL.

[xelnaga]

I just am unsure if I should run maybe 800-1000mg of test a week like I see some places bc I want to get big fast

Why not every other day ?

[Tres']

Way too much for a "first cycle", No need to pin every other day with E....and you wrote a paper on this subject??

[Tres']

My bad blz...That was for cross

[The Bear 79]

Way too much for a "first cycle", No need to pin every other day with E....and you wrote a paper on this subject??

I think ur a bit mixed up bro. The OP never sed he intended on pinning Test. E. EOD, senior looney toon (crossdresser44) did.

[Tres']

Yeah it was my bad...

[SufferToReturnHarder]

Why isn't crossdresser banned yet?

[Tres']

why isn't crossdresser banned yet?

x-2!

[Times Roman]

Why isn't crossdresser banned yet?

He's still settling in. Give him some time. He'll be alright

[Matt]

Why isn't crossdresser banned yet?

Trust me "The Bear" will be gone first....

[The Bear 79]

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[Matt]

On wut grounds? Cuz u don't like me? I've done no worse than any1 else here (this forum) & I don't c u calling them out. It's obvious you've got it out 4 me, based on this post & ur other post in another thread that u called me out in, insinuating that I'm not helpful of constructive. Make no mistake Matt, I respect ur position / title here, but I'm not afraid 2 tell u that ur wrong about me. I am a helpful, constructive, contributing member of this forum & u know it, u just don't like me. Of coarse this will most likely end with me being banned & the 2 posts in response 2 u calling me out being deleted so there's no evidence of ur inability 2 meet the challenge of proving I'm a troll & that I'm not helpful or constructive. I'm not gona beg 4 my membership here, but I WILL publicly apologize & gracefully bow out if u can prove I'm not helpful or constructive. I can prove I AM.

Your post in here wasn't helpful or constructive...

There maybe guests viewing this thread, they may want to join, they too may have what they think could be a stupid question but seeing your response puts them off joining...

We have had many members in the past be accused of being trolls only for them to be vindicated at a later date....

Its very very simple and this goes for everyone....

If you enter a thread and believe the op is either a troll or just someone fvcking around then hit the report button and move on. We don't want or need you to add your comments, just move on without posting, unless you have something constructive to add, simple as that....

[Matt]

Ps Bear, i don't know you so saying that i don't like you is a little silly...

[The Bear 79]

Your post in here wasn't helpful or constructive...

There maybe guests viewing this thread, they may want to join, they too may have what they think could be a stupid question but seeing your response puts them off joining...

We have had many members in the past be accused of being trolls only for them to be vindicated at a later date....

Its very very simple and this goes for everyone....

If you enter a thread and believe the op is either a troll or just someone fvcking around then hit the report button and move on. We don't want or need you to add your comments, just move on without posting, unless you have something constructive to add, simple as that....

I understand Matt, & I'm sorry, I wont post like that anymore.

[The Bear 79]

Ps Bear, i don't know you so saying that i don't like you is a little silly...

Silly as it may b, it's the impression I get.

[xo3et]

Back on track.

To the OP, please post in the format given by (TIMES ROMAN). It keeps things clearer and people can post faster and more to the point.

You will need to gain more knowledge so you can make an informed decision on using ABS. There are some very experienced people on here who will keep you on the correct path, just please dont rush into anything before you know the risks/facts.

Good luck on your research, hope you make the safest/wisest decision

[blzngmarine]

sorry wasnt sure what you meant by post in the times roman form? but yeah i still havnt got alot of answers I just want to know more good opinions i guess. if the legal versoins are junk i will wait till i find what i need. but is that begginer cycle the best route with just test. enanthate/nolvadex/clomid? or should i stack the d-bol tabs with it? i am just wondering if i do indeed find some locally if this is where i should start with these kinds? ive not done it yet and just want GOOD opinions, so please any help would be great, thanks again guys.

[Matt]

^^ First cycle should always be test only mate, that way we can better gauge side effects.. Your nolva and clomid would then be used for pct...

[blzngmarine]

so this is hands down the way to go? also this ar-r site i seen on here is that all pct or is it the real deal just curious cause on the site i had no idea what the stuff was, if i can even ask that thanks!

[SufferToReturnHarder]

Yes, test is hands down the way to go. Ar-r site is great for pct and AI (which your going to want on hand for estrogen related sides)

[JohnnyVegas]

Just in case you are looking for consensus...you have my vote for Test-only first cycles. You won't be disappointed.

[blzngmarine]

so what does ai mean you say on the ar-r site? like the nolvadex? i know clomid is the pct right?