First Cyle - Tren Ace

[grp2010]

First Cycle (Critics Welcome)

Begin anti-estrogen and liver support 2 weeks prior to cycle.

5-6 Weeks Tren Ace 100mg EOD

Taking Aromasin throughout to prevent sides.

PCT - Chrysin and anti-estrogen 4 weeks

I've been researching for the past 2 months and this is the outcome. It will amount to 300-400mg a week for 5-6 weeks. Am I missing anything? I wanted to do a short cycle, being that this is my first. I know that it is not advised to run Tren A alone but I am not interested in stacking (also libido is not an issue due to my religion...don't judge). I am 21 years old, 6'3" 180 lbs, looking to put on some weight...maybe bulk up 10-15 lbs. Thanks!

[Times Roman]

First Cycle (Critics Welcome)

Begin anti-estrogen and liver support 2 weeks prior to cycle.

5-6 Weeks Tren Ace 100mg EOD

Taking Aromasin throughout to prevent sides.

PCT - Chrysin and anti-estrogen 4 weeks

I've been researching for the past 2 months and this is the outcome. It will amount to 300-400mg a week for 5-6 weeks. Am I missing anything? I wanted to do a short cycle, being that this is my first. I know that it is not advised to run Tren A alone but I am not interested in stacking (also libido is not an issue due to my religion...don't judge). I am 21 years old, 6'3" 180 lbs, looking to put on some weight...maybe bulk up 10-15 lbs. Thanks!

Welcome to the board mate.
First, i need clarification on your stats. this is what your profile says:
Basic Information

About grp2010
Age:
19

so how long have you been lifting?
which age is correct? 19 or 21?
body fat%
how much time have you spent learning about your diet? (this is actually a very important question)

you ask what is missing.

testosterone is missing~! Your first cycle should be testosterone only

tren is an advanced steroid, with many side effects you are probably ill equipped to deal with. Definately not something to screw with on a first cycle.

really no need for liver support prior to cycle.

(I'll defer to someone else on the PCT issue)

Advice here is definately NOT "One size fits all".

So if you could be so kind and answer the few questions I've posed, that would be helpful.

---Roman

[grp2010]

Sorry about the mix up. I am 21 years old, I was being lazy during my registration and just picked an age above 18 lol.

I have been a part of organized lifting for 3 years now, I am a college baseball player. Body fat is 8%.

My diet...5-6 meals per day, aiming for 5000 calories, 300 complex carbs, 300g protein.

I've stayed away from test because other team mates have run it with great cycle plans yet have had horrible side effects. Not interested in stacking the tren with test. This will probably be my first and last cycle... last resort before hanging up my cleats.

[Times Roman]

Not a problem about the mixup.

about the diet. 5000 calories. 300gm carbs = 1200 cals, and 300g protein = 1200 cals, so therefore 2600 cals is from fat????? something isn';t right here mate. you are saying over 50% of all the calories you will be eating is pure fat? Why don't you try that one again.

Next. Test is fairly mild compared to tren. If you are avoiding test because of the sides, then tren is DEFINATELY NOT FOR YOU.

The more I talk to you, the more I'm thinking you are not ready for AAS. Besides, you are still so young, your hormonal is still developing, and you want to intefer withthat development by taking drugs. Not a wise decision.

So let's start over, shall we? Go to the nutrition section here and post your diet for us to look at: http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...RESOURCE-FORUM
I really wouuld like to see what you are putting in your body. Be prepared for us to critique it, showing you (hopefully) some improvement opportunities.

Next, let's have you go to the workout section here and post your routines for us to look at: http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...KOUT-QUESTIONS
We need to see what's going on there also.

To be straight with you, AAS is the LAST thing for you to consider. You need a natural, solid foundation that is a result of proper diet and exercise. Once you've got those dialed in, then maybe steroids can help you get to the next level.

Go ahead and knock those out above, and we will look again.

---Roman

[nusa]

Very good advice by roman you should listen to him.
Also test is best, if your worried about side affects you will get from test then you should definitely stay away from the tren.
Also being a ball player test will be alot more beneficial for you in
Performance than what the tren will be.

[DIESELPWR]

Plus they do have drug testing in college baseball.. You have to consider that also

[redz]

I agree that if you are afraid of sides from Test than Tren is a no go any way you look at it, here is just a few common sides:
-Insomnia
-brutal night sweats
-head aches
-lack of labedo
-trouble recovering after cycle
-depression (partly because of the lack of test you will have in your system)
-lactating nipples
-high blood pressure
-shortness of breath
-Tren Cough (this is brutal)

There are many mroe too and that is why Tren is not for beginners and most definitely not to be ran alone.

[Fetch]

Roman probably gave you the best, most civil advice you will find here. There are several reasons why you should not cycle...

First, too young. Your endocrine system is in development until an average age of 24-25. By retarding it's growth at the critical stage of development, you are vastly increasing the risk of hypogonadism. This means TRT for life.

Second, lack of knowledge. You clearly have not done enough reading. Check out the stickies here. Learn about the compounds you are considering. Tren is the very last compound you should be considering. It is one of the harshest, least tolerable steroids you can find. Your first cycle should be Test. By itself. Build a base of experience with steroids like you would with anything else.

Third, diet. Yours is clearly not planned out very well. There is an excellent forum full of diet gurus here that can help.

Fourth, physical stats. 6'2 and only 180 pounds? You may not be skin and bones, but if you dialed your diet in better, I'd be willing to bet you could easily put on that '10-15' pounds you want without using drugs.

Finally, you don't understand supplements very well. Why would you start Anti-E 2 weeks ahead of time? Why would you even bother with an AI until you know if you will HAVE any sides? What specifically will you be using in your PCT? Do you know the difference between a SERM and an AI? When to use either? I'm getting the impression that you haven't learned about that yet. Check the PCT section of the forums here.

You aren;t ready for steroids yet, bro. You are several years from being able to do them safely anyway. I'd use that time to learn more about these drugs, and about how to eat properly. Eating 'right' and eating 'right for muscle gain' are two different things. Goodluck to you.

[dec11]

tren is bad idea and frankly as you've lied about your age i doubt many will want to help

[JohnnyVegas]

Listen to Roman. He was correct, and constructive.

You said two months research resulted in a Tren only cycle...which means you need to do many more months research, I guess.