First Cycle - H-Drol

[Jonesyy]

I think the time has come for my first cycle .

I came to this site about 6 months ago now and got a lot of positive help, basically guiding me away from pro-hormones and to sorting out my diet . My diet has been well recently, and despite climbing Mt. Kilimanjaro in June I am still 11st 8lbs.

I am 6ft 1 and 11st 8lbs, with around an 11% body fat. For the past 2 months I have been training hard and eating well, but I just can't seem to beat a plateau I have come to. It is frustrating me because I am inbetween the guys who have given up and the guys who have already made it to their goals - mine of which is 13st.

I want to get to this weight ideally, and keep as many of the gains as I can through a lean diet and hard training regime.

This is where the H-Drol comes in. I have done a lot of extensive research and taken into account a lot of opinions on the matter. I was ideally wanting to take some M-Drol (own some right now as it happens) but decided against it for a first cycle while deciding on a more mild drug to see how my body reacts.

My cycle will look like this: 50/75/75/75/75

Alongside this I will run Liv 52 and Milk Thistle for liver support, alongside the usuals such as:
- Multivits
- Fish Oils
- Glucosamine Sulphate
- Hawthorne Berry.

PCT I take very seriously. I will take the above + 6-OXO and Nolva for 5 weeks also, tapering down the Nolva in dosage as I go.

Hopefully I will get to keep the majority of my gains, and will be happy with the results. Any further advice welcomed and encouraged. Wish me luck!

Dan

P.S. The H-Drol I got was from a brand called Anabolic Pharmaceuticals. I wanted CEL but it was not in stock and they offered me 20% off as a result. I am concerned with the fact I can not find much info on them, and the bottle does not show a mg p/tab but only a 1-2 within 24 hours warning.

Any insight from anybody on that?

Onto day 2 now, increased energy 2 hours after work out only effect so far. Definitely more energetic in the gym.

[Ashop]

Is the active compound in the brand your using the same as CEL's HDROL?

[NewbFromCali]

I used hdrol a few times. Effed me up. Cramping. Dehydration. Pinched nerves in my arms. And I got gyno after a bad batch.

[xelnaga]

Can someone please explain what Hdrol is exactly???

[Honkey_Kong]

So you're 6'1 and 162lbs and you want to do a ph cycle? Do you even eat 3 times a day (let alone 6)?

And you've hit a plateau after two months of training? Sounds like your training and diet suck. You should still be getting newbie gains.

I'm not trying to sound like a dick or anything, but I don't think you're anywhere near ready to run a cycle of anything. Get your diet and training square and give it a couple years at least before you consider cycling. I mean you're going to do what you want, but this is a bad idea.

[Honkey_Kong]

Can someone please explain what Hdrol is exactly???

It's a prohormone. Here read a little about it
http://tunedsports.com/designer-ster...rmative-bible/

I'm not advocating the advice in that article though.

[Nhetrick]

Can someone please explain what Hdrol is exactly???

It's a prohormone legaly available in the US.

[SufferToReturnHarder]

Ph's are crap and a waste of time and money.

[funkymonk]

It's a prohormone. Here read a little about it
http://tunedsports.com/designer-ster...rmative-bible/

I'm not advocating the advice in that article though.

I would. If you're gonna take a PH you might as well follow tunedsports.

Hdrol: 50/75/75/75/75/75 (6 weeks)
PCT: Nolva at 20/20/10/10 (no OTC crap is not sufficient)

Liver protection throughout. Blood pressure supps throughout if you think they're worth it or necessary.

If you've "hit a plateu" at 11st 8lbs (162 lbs) I guarantee your problem is your diet.

[venomx]

PCT I take very seriously. I will take the above + 6-OXO and Nolva for 5 weeks also, tapering down the Nolva in dosage as I go.
.

lol. your seriously using a toxic compound for PCT for 5 weeks for the least suppressive pro hormone. your gonna end up killing your estrogen levels and feeling like complete shit.
an OTC pct for hdrol will suffice fine. obviously it's good to have nolva on hand incase you start getting gyno or bad estrogen sides ( although extremely unlikely ) but doing 5 weeks of that stuff is complete over kill and a waste of money.

[funkymonk]

lol. your seriously using a toxic compound for PCT for 5 weeks for the least suppressive pro hormone. your gonna end up killing your estrogen levels and feeling like complete shit.
an OTC pct for hdrol will suffice fine. obviously it's good to have nolva on hand incase you start getting gyno or bad estrogen sides ( although extremely unlikely ) but doing 5 weeks of that stuff is complete over kill and a waste of money.

Nolva toxicity is overhyped when it's being used in the context of a light 4 week PCT.
Some people get completely shutdown on Hdrol. Some people never recover with OTC PCT on Hdrol. The only real way to tell is bloodwork.

If you have Nolva, use it. Why use a watering pail to put out a fire if you've got a fire hose right next to you?

[xo3et]

lol. your seriously using a toxic compound for PCT for 5 weeks for the least suppressive pro hormone. your gonna end up killing your estrogen levels and feeling like complete shit.
an OTC pct for hdrol will suffice fine. obviously it's good to have nolva on hand incase you start getting gyno or bad estrogen sides ( although extremely unlikely ) but doing 5 weeks of that stuff is complete over kill and a waste of money.

Dude Hdrol is not weak, I have run it several times and have many friends who love the stuff, everyone one of them will tell you that a proper PCT is needed. I have one friend who even got gyno problems from a hdrol cycle.

Id run a proper PCT.

[SufferToReturnHarder]

lol. your seriously using a toxic compound for PCT for 5 weeks for the least suppressive pro hormone. your gonna end up killing your estrogen levels and feeling like complete shit.
an OTC pct for hdrol will suffice fine. obviously it's good to have nolva on hand incase you start getting gyno or bad estrogen sides ( although extremely unlikely ) but doing 5 weeks of that stuff is complete over kill and a waste of money.

I have never run this compound, but this guy obviously has no idea what he is talking about. As I have stated earlier, ph's IMHO are crap. But atleast run a proper pct.

[Honkey_Kong]

I have never run this compound, but this guy obviously has no idea what he is talking about. As I have stated earlier, ph's IMHO are crap. But atleast run a proper pct.

PHs are garbage. The only one that really works well is M-drol and that shit's got some real bad sides. Even hdrol is suppressive and so a real PCT should be used.

[SufferToReturnHarder]

PHs are garbage. The only one that really works well is M-drol and that shit's got some real bad sides. Even hdrol is suppressive and so a real PCT should be used.

Yes sir, completely agree.

[Jonesyy]

Picked up a shoulder injury a week into the cycle, put everything on hold until I recover as there is little I can do but make it worse at this point.

An update though:

I had a really good boost in energy in the gym, and strength did seem to go up a little nearing the end of the week. The additional energy and strength led to me trying too hard on my left shoulder, my slightly weaker shoulder, and it seems I may have pulled a muscle or maybe injured the rotary cuff. I can still train, but lightly, so I do not think it is serious. Hopefully back into it by De***ber but may not bother with a cycle until January now due to Xmas and all that.

I feel that I may be wasting the expensive Nolva on the H-Drol sometimes. May go for the M-Drol since I have it when I start another cycle.

[The Bear 79]

Picked up a shoulder injury a week into the cycle, put everything on hold until I recover as there is little I can do but make it worse at this point.

An update though:

I had a really good boost in energy in the gym, and strength did seem to go up a little nearing the end of the week. The additional energy and strength led to me trying too hard on my left shoulder, my slightly weaker shoulder, and it seems I may have pulled a muscle or maybe injured the rotary cuff. I can still train, but lightly, so I do not think it is serious. Hopefully back into it by De***ber but may not bother with a cycle until January now due to Xmas and all that.

I feel that I may be wasting the expensive Nolva on the H-Drol sometimes. May go for the M-Drol since I have it when I start another cycle.

U should stay away from ALL PH's & Steroids @ the age of 23, due to the significantly greater risk potentially permanent damage to ur undeveloped Endocrine / HPTA.

[SufferToReturnHarder]

U should stay away from ALL PH's & Steroids @ the age of 23, due to the significantly greater risk potentially permanent damage to ur undeveloped Endocrine / HPTA.

I agree. The results you get from a lousy ph is not worth the possible negative outcomes of what could happen.

[Honkey_Kong]

Picked up a shoulder injury a week into the cycle, put everything on hold until I recover as there is little I can do but make it worse at this point.

An update though:

I had a really good boost in energy in the gym, and strength did seem to go up a little nearing the end of the week. The additional energy and strength led to me trying too hard on my left shoulder, my slightly weaker shoulder, and it seems I may have pulled a muscle or maybe injured the rotary cuff. I can still train, but lightly, so I do not think it is serious. Hopefully back into it by De***ber but may not bother with a cycle until January now due to Xmas and all that.

I feel that I may be wasting the expensive Nolva on the H-Drol sometimes. May go for the M-Drol since I have it when I start another cycle.

Really, you should probably not do exercises that put stress on your shoulder. It's better to miss out in a couple weeks of lifting on it than it is to continue and seriously damage your shoulder.

As far as m-drol goes, reconsider.

[ghettoboyd]

lol. your seriously using a toxic compound for PCT for 5 weeks for the least suppressive pro hormone. your gonna end up killing your estrogen levels and feeling like complete shit.
an OTC pct for hdrol will suffice fine. obviously it's good to have nolva on hand incase you start getting gyno or bad estrogen sides ( although extremely unlikely ) but doing 5 weeks of that stuff is complete over kill and a waste of money.

you have no idea what your talking about id advise you to read more and advise less...

[cro]

i love the compound . i only know the cell product. 50 /75/75/75/75/75 is what i run .never had any sides except a very hard look.had blood work done after a 14 day pct of nolva at 40 mg. everything was normal.very mild on liver toxicity..alot of people dont even run liver support.