What to choose? Any help appreciated.

[vyper88]

Hey all -

Currently I am about 31yo male, 79kg 5ft10 24% BF and am about to do my second course ever.

First course was about 8 years ago.


I am still deciding on what I am wanting to do.

Option A
DBol - 3 x 10mg a day for 4 to 6 weeks
Stanazol - 4ml a week mid course

Option B
Pakistani Sustanon - 1ml (250meg) per week for 4 to 6 weeks
Stanazol - 4ml a week mid course

Option C
Primotest - 1ml (250meg) per week 4-6 weeks
Stanazol - 4ml per week mis course

Obviously I am a lot older now and carrying more bodyweight so any feedback would be appreciated.

Ideally I am wanting gains with muscle but nothing crazy - 5-8kg would be perfect!

[redz]

24% bf is very high and none of those cycles are laid out right.

[Far from massive]

Do a lot of reading, particularly begginer cycles. What would be best is a simple test cycle, long ester E or C pinning around 200mg every 3.5 days. Most would say you would be well served to reduce your bodyfat before beggining and I would agree. However if you don't want to do that limiting the cycle to 400 a week and using a long ester will help to reduce the chance of sides. Also make sure you have an AI on hand ( as well as PCT ) before beggining the cycle.

Good Luck,

FFM

[vyper88]

THanks - why do you think it is betterto reduce bodyfat? In my last course I carried bodyfat but lost it as I kept the same calorie consumption and it seemed by body used up any excessive fat stores.

If I were to reduce bodyfat - to what do you think?

[SufferToReturnHarder]

The higher you bf the more likely to get estrogen related sides

[vyper88]

what if i use anti estrogens? is there still a risk? Arimidex?

[SufferToReturnHarder]

Yes, of coarse there is a risk. AI's will help though. Just do yourself a favor and lower that bf man.

[vyper88]

okay cool.. what do you think a good % to lower my body fat to is?

[SufferToReturnHarder]

IMHO between 12-15..even 15 is a bit high.

[vyper88]

why are the estrogen side affects higher if i carry BF?

[SufferToReturnHarder]

Men with higher bfs levels are likely increased estrogen levels caused by aromatase like activity. Having high estrogen can lead to many other problems as well mate.

[vyper88]

hmm okay I checked my BF levels they actually 20%

Now also I had blood work the other week with estrogen levels fairly low the Dr said. I am jsut eager to start a course however not sure when to exactly haha.

[im83931]

Even with an anti-e you risk high bp, and thats not good for the kidneys.

[SufferToReturnHarder]

Even with an anti-e you risk high bp, and thats not good for the kidneys.

Agreed, plus many more sides.