i know and i saw the other threads but see i dont know if they really work so i decided to make a thread asking you guys which thread on here did you try and did it work? or are they all crap and do you have a better diet plan? i was redricted here because i was told this can help me more then steroids since i am still to young to be taking them i am 18 going on 19 in a couple mouths i put alot of infromation on my last thread but i am not on this if you need more just tell me okps the pic of me is me i have more but it looks small to me idk if i did it right