Water Retention

[Bill_boy2005]

It seems that I am starting to retain water after starting trt. Is this normal?

[bass]

are you taking AIs? what is your protocol? possibly your e2 is too high!

[Bill_boy2005]

Im on 200mg every other week. I did change that to a weekly 100mg. I am not in hcg or an AI. I am waiting for a communication back from my doctor as I've asked about both of those things. I was wondering if that could be the case, especially since my bf is higher than ideal.

[NOSUPERMODEL]

Most likely it is the elevated E2. I retained a lot of water until I got mine under control with an AI.

[devildog1967]

it sounds like E2 problem ..a AI will sort that out ..1mg per 100mg of test .

[Bill_boy2005]

Thanks. Hopefully I can get my Dr off the bubble on givng me an AI and hcg as part of my protocol. Hard to find a knowledgeable Dr here where I live.

Anything natural or non-prescription that I can take to help lower E2 while I am trying to get her to prescribe something?

[Bill_boy2005]

Thanks. Hopefully I can get my Dr off the bubble on givng me an AI and hcg as part of my protocol. Hard to find a knowledgeable Dr here where I live.

Anything natural or non-prescription that I can take to help lower E2 while I am trying to get her to prescribe something?

[zaggahamma]

60X0 is used and there was a thread on it lately but the guy didnt updated it...my doctor suggested it before i demanded arimidex when my e2 rose to 78 from 25

[Bill_boy2005]

60x0 seems to be a discontinued product :-(

[zaggahamma]

60x0 seems to be a discontinued product :-(

Sorry i tried

[kelkel]

You'll find some relevant info in the stickies on natural assistance with E

[Fred40]

I was defiantly retaining fluids when starting my TRT. I'd say about 6-10lbs worth easy.

6 weeks in I checked my E2 and it was high. Starting taking an AI (Arimidex) and lost the bloat in about 2 weeks time. Have not been bloated since.

[Bill_boy2005]

I think thats about what I am carrying. I put on about 10# it seemed overnight. It seems stable, but I can see puffiness under my arms, on my back, and around my nipples. I dont feel anything solid around the nipple, it just seems puffy.

[yannick35]

Same here, was not given any AI yet because i am still new to TRT and must get some blood test, i seemed to have gain some water weight. MMMMMMM

[Bill_boy2005]

Starting to feel some tenderness around my nipples as well. Not good. If my Dr doesn't get on board soon on an AI it looks like I will be sourcing it elsewhere.

[Fred40]

Starting to feel some tenderness around my nipples as well. Not good. If my Dr doesn't get on board soon on an AI it looks like I will be sourcing it elsewhere.

A little tenderness is quite common.....especially when first starting out. I wouldn't freak out about it. You won't go gyno that fast at these dosages.

The bloat sucks though. I could tell real easy just by how my wedding ring fit.

[FONZY007]

Will the AI control acne? Like aromasin/ arimedex?

[Bill_boy2005]

A little tenderness is quite common.....especially when first starting out. I wouldn't freak out about it. You won't go gyno that fast at these dosages.

The bloat sucks though. I could tell real easy just by how my wedding ring fit.

Thanks for the input. Get nervous when talking about boobs on me.

[Bill_boy2005]

Talked to my urologist this morning, she will not do anything beyond test for treatment. So time to find an HRT clinic I guess.

[Fred40]

Talked to my urologist this morning, she will not do anything beyond test for treatment. So time to find an HRT clinic I guess.

5 more posts and you might find some PM help on finding inexpensive AI's.

[bass]

5 more posts and you might find some PM help on finding inexpensive AI's.

looking good there in the avi Fred!

[Fred40]

looking good there in the avi Fred!

Thanks.....it's coming along. Still need to lose a bunch of BF.

[bass]

Thanks.....it's coming along. Still need to lose a bunch of BF.

i hear you bro, never give up! i started at 49 and can't believe I've accomplished so much in less than 3 years!

[Bill_boy2005]

I was really hoping to get my Dr's buy in. And every endocrinologist in the valley is booked through January here. I have several free flights worth of airmiles, I should consider Crisler's clinic.

I am looking local for AI's too. Have a guy I work out with some that is opening up. I dont think he uses, but knows the right people to hopefully help me out.

[bass]

I was really hoping to get my Dr's buy in. And every endocrinologist in the valley is booked through January here. I have several free flights worth of airmiles, I should consider Crisler's clinic.

I am looking local for AI's too. Have a guy I work out with some that is opening up. I dont think he uses, but knows the right people to hopefully help me out.

it maybe worth it! all you need is one trip and he'll take care of you for life.

[Bill_boy2005]

it maybe worth it! all you need is one trip and he'll take care of you for life.

I am leaning that way. My insurance doesnt cover anything for TRT on the Dr. side anyhow. Flights, hotel, and rental car are the same as free.

[yannick35]

Not sure if this is just a temp side effect, i am glad to say that the weight go back to normal this week

[bass]

Not sure if this is just a temp side effect, i am glad to say that the weight go back to normal this week

i know you felt like you retained water, did you change anything, your diet, protocol?

[yannick35]

i know you felt like you retained water, did you change anything, your diet, protocol?

I cut a bit of calories here and there, and started walking a bit more that is it, nothing major in changes, my dosage are still the same 200mg per week

[yannick35]

Bass looks like your coming along amazing bro avatar looks insane, really good seperation between arms and delts. I feel the bodyfat issue is quite commun in almost everyone here, we need to lose it, yet another proof that low T level will make people put on a lot more.

[zaggahamma]

well done bass

[bass]

thanks guys! lighting and a angle can work miracles

[kelkel]

thanks guys! lighting and a angle can work miracles

Nice try. You work hard. You earned it. Look great!

[bass]

Nice try. You work hard. You earned it. Look great!

thanks Kel, it means allot coming from you. BTW when are you going to show your quads?

[Bill_boy2005]

I could really use some help on an AI if someone could pm me. My gym buddy can't get it and I can't get into an endo here for quite awhile, longer than I want to stay bloated or possibly working on gyno. I am going to go to Crisler, but want to wait till after the first of the year. I am throwing money at a deductible at yearend, which just kills me.

[bass]

I could really use some help on an AI if someone could pm me. My gym buddy can't get it and I can't get into an endo here for quite awhile, longer than I want to stay bloated or possibly working on gyno. I am going to go to Crisler, but want to wait till after the first of the year. I am throwing money at a deductible at yearend, which just kills me.

PM sent!

[Bill_boy2005]

PM sent!

Thanks Bass. Appreciate it.

[Bill_boy2005]

So what I have read, Liquidex@ 1mg/100mg test. And split that up through the week correct?

[bass]

So what I have read, Liquidex@ 1mg/100mg test. And split that up through the week correct?

correct!

[Bill_boy2005]

Feels like i am unloading some water. Thankfully. Nipples are back to normalish as well. So I am back of the running with the biggest boobs contest with my wife.