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    Second cycle layout, need serious advice!

    Weeks 1-4: Turinabol, 50mgs ED
    Weeks 1-15: Test E, 300mgs
    Weeks 1-14: EQ, 500mgs
    Weeks 9-15: Anavar 50 mg ED
    weeks 1-15: 12.5mg aromasin 2x a week/ 500 Iu's HCG 2x a week
    Week 17: clomid 100mgs for first 3-5 days/ 12.5mg aromasin 2x a week
    Weeks 18-19: clomid 50mgs/ 12.5mg aromasin 2x a week
    Week 20: clomid 25mgs/ 12.5mg aromasin 2x a week

    Nizoral shampoo eod/ mino 2% 2x ed/ 1mg fina throughout cycle
    I'll also use a test booster and a DAA through the four weeks of my pct

    My first cycle was 600mg test per week. I saw some decent gains but i really messed up my pct and lost a lot size. I'm trying to avoid the same mistake so I thought id post here and see what you guys have to say. My main questions are:
    1) do you guys suggest I take less compounds since this is my second cycle?
    2) Would hair loss be a problem with this cycle? I'm very mpb prone
    3) Is my hcg dosages correct? Should i blast hcg with my pct?
    4) are the start times for my pct correct? I know eq and test e have long esters so I was advised to wait 2 weeks after my last injection to start pct

    My diet and training is in check, I'm looking to put on a lot of lean mass before summer and slim down a bit.
    I'll be eating roughly 3k calories and training 6 days a week. If you guys have any other questions jusk ask.

    Thanks in advance!

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    Bump, would this be a better second cycle to run?

    1-4 Tbol 50 mg
    1-12 Test E 600 mg
    6-12 var 50 mg

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    Its a good (but expensive cycle) but a BIG one if this is your second cycle. One thing.... I would run a couple weeks (at least) of clomid around week 8. The second bump seems more reasonable. And I would not worry about calories. I would focus on protein (1.5 g per lb) and carbs (1 to 1.25 per lb). Macros are super important during a cycle, can be the difference between seeing gains and not seeing gains. For me personally, my cycles are way less than this (because of $$ for one thing) and I eat about 3500 to 4000 cals at a body weight of 250. Just my 2 cents.

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    im leaning more towards my second cycle right now. Do i still need to take clomid week 8 if i run the smaller cycle?

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    damnit nobody wants to help me?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiggles
    damnit nobody wants to help me?!
    Don't be a dick

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiggles;584****
    My main questions are:
    1) do you guys suggest I take less compounds since this is my second cycle? id drop the eq
    2) Would hair loss be a problem with this cycle? I'm very mpb prone very possible - how was first cycle re: hair?
    3) Is my hcg dosages correct? Should i blast hcg with my pct? [B} id do 250iu-2x/week up to pct -but not during pct[/B]
    4) are the start times for my pct correct? I know eq and test e have long esters so I was advised to wait 2 weeks after my last injection to start pct you have eq stopping week before test so 2 wseeks after last test inj is correct

    My diet and training is in check, I'm looking to put on a lot of lean mass before summer and slim down a bit.
    I'll be eating roughly 3k calories and training 6 days a week. If you guys have any other questions jusk ask.

    Thanks in advance!
    see bold...
    How long was first cycle?
    Id lean more twords second cycle you stated but id start var 2 weeks later and run it up to pct ...
    aromasin - 12.5mgs e3d can up to eod if needed ...
    I see no sense in the advice given to run a few weeks of clomid mid cycle, useless imo....
    Id set up pct differently.... 2 compound serm based pct ..... if u insist on ai in pct id stop it after 2nd week of pct....
    ie:
    clomid 100/50/50/50
    nolva 40/20/20/20/20
    test booster / daa= eh whatever...

    repost if u decide to switch it up...

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    1-4 Tbol 50 mg
    1-12 Test E 600 mg
    8-12 var 50 mg
    1-16 aromasin 12.5 mg 2x week
    clomid 100/50/50/25

    Can you fix my schedule (if needed) and include hcg. I'm still not sure about the duration and when to start hcg. thankyou

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    also, i heard it was ideal to run var for atleast 6 weeks. Can someone chime in on this?

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