Planning 3rd cycle....critique

[Nuzzi]

getting close to order time so im smoothing out the wrinkles for my 3rd cycle...
28yo
11%bf
5'10
175lbs
eat clean and lots of it.

past cycles consisted of test e 250/wk on 1st with winny tabs, 500/wk on 2nd with dbol.

this is what ive considered.

revised plans....

1-12 test P 75mg/ed (525/wk)
1-10 tren a 50mg/ed
2-14 hcg 500iu/wk (split)
1-14 aromasin as needed 12.5mg ed/eod
1-10 caber as needed .25-.5mg e3d/e4d

PCT 13-17
nolva 40/40/20/20/10
clomid 50/50/25/25

[Nuzzi]

ill assume it looks good then since 100 views and no replys....

[BBrian]

Heh, good assumption, though most people seem to recommend starting HCG at week 2-4. Also, have you studied the side-affects of tren? Being that you've taken winstrol and dianobol, you at least are presumably familiar with sides.

[alexISthrowed]

Ok I would drop the tren dose to 50mg ed for you first run. The dbol isn't really necessary because the tren ace is going to kick in fast, but honestly, if it was me I would run the dbol so I'm not going to tell you to drop it. Like brian said hcg isn't really necessary right from the beginning of the cycle, but it isn't going to hurt to run it through the whole thing. Pct looks solid.

[bigdogchoppers]

I appreciate your thread Nuzzi. I have the EXACT same plans. Good luck bro

[Exilus]

5'10 and 175 lbs after 3 cycles?...

[bigdogchoppers]

Damn Exilus... not everybody can be as big as you. Back is ridiculous man. Props are due

[Nuzzi]

thanks for the replys. this is going to be my 3rd cycle so ive got two done. the first one was only 250 test e/wk for 10 weeks and made some beginer mistakes so i lost alot of the mass from that cycle, although i did retain most of the strength and conditioning from it. the second went much better but im pretty sure the test was underdosed as it was from a different supplier from the first cycle. i also started out at about 155lbs so im doing ok, ive always been skinny, dam metabolism. As for the hcg at week 1...normally i would start it later like you say since the test doesnt kick in right away but i thought maybe i would need it since the tren will kick in fast, i could wait till week 2 and see how it goes. Ive heard different things about dbol with tren, and i see both sides. i loved it last cycle. are you saying its a waste or just too much at once? and ive seen dosages all over the place for tren, i heard 50 wasnt alot and 75 is better, ive also seen back and forth about how much test to take with tren, one saying the norm and others saying the test should be lower than the tren???

[JP-MAN]

if ur running tren ace, which has to be injected ed, or eod why not switch ur test to prop and have a much shorter leaner cycle.
10 weeks of tren is long, i run it as long as i can handle, its a nasty chemical.
i would not run the d-bol.

switch to prop, inject ed and crank it out for 6-8 weeks.....

[Nuzzi]

dam you beat me to it, i was just going to edit my last post to say im cosidering switching to prop and drop the dbol..never used prop though.

[D7M]

I agree on lowering the tren to 50mg/ED. Trust me, a little bit of tren goes a long way.

You could drop your clomid dose to 50/50/25/25 for your PCT as well.

[Nuzzi]

revised plan up top^^ thanks

[bigdogchoppers]

"and ive seen dosages all over the place for tren , i heard 50 wasnt alot and 75 is better, ive also seen back and forth about how much test to take with tren , one saying the norm and others saying the test should be lower than the tren ??? "

could someone please comment on this... thanks

[gixxerboy1]

your pct should start 3 days after your last prop injection not 2 weeks

[songdog]

"and ive seen dosages all over the place for tren , i heard 50 wasnt alot and 75 is better, ive also seen back and forth about how much test to take with tren , one saying the norm and others saying the test should be lower than the tren ??? "

could someone please comment on this... thanks

Some guys run low test while running a higher dose of tren.But being your 1st time I wouldnt.Not good to highjack a thread.But the wat the heck it lets the tren do the work!

[bigdogchoppers]

no hijacking here, that was the op's quote. but good looking out though. thanks for the info songdog

[Nuzzi]

oopps forgot to edit the pct when i made the switch from enanth to prop, thanks for catching that.

[vtach12]

What does your diet look like? How many calories are you getting per day?