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    okay so i am only 21 almost 22 years old. my stats are:
    height-6'1
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    bf-12-13%

    i am looking to cut down to around 5-7% bf by summer, my question is are there any types of steroids that can help me achieve my goals?
    i dont want anything that will ruin my hormones due to the fact i am still 21. my diet is a good healthy diet, i count my macros and end up at a 40/40/20 ration with carbs, proteins, and fats. i was eating around 4500 calories in winter to bulk some and now i have cut down to 3500-3800 calories. i know i can achieve my goals without steroids but was just curious to see if there was anything that could help boost my progress. again im just curious to get some ideas that i can start researching on and seeing whats out there and whats worth it. ive done some research on cycles already because when i turn 24-25 i plan on doing a cycle of test e. thanks for any advice and help.

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    although you are 6'1 @ 212 lbs, 3800 cals seems like an awful lot, my guess is that its slightly over your maintenence, so to cut you need to re-assess your diet, i suggest you go to the nutrition section, post your current diet along with macros and your goals and let the guys there assist you, and if your diet dosnt co-incide with your goals, then the is NO steroid or anything else that will help you

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    Clenbuterol or albuterol helped me to cut fat and lean down. Don't recommend AAS to cut fat. Good diet and cardio does a pretty good job at your age.

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    Will Clenbuterol or albuterol mess up my hormones though because of the fact I am only 21 though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by joegtz99 View Post
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    Dont listen to this guy

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    Will Clenbuterol or albuterol mess up my hormones though because of the fact I am only 21 though?
    Nope but clen can be a bit hard on your heart if you take too much

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    Will clen or alb help me cut some bf% with a healthy diet, I know a healthy diet can do a lot but in the end I'm looking to get a little more out of it. Thanks for the advice also

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlash88
    Will clen or alb help me cut some bf% with a healthy diet, I know a healthy diet can do a lot but in the end I'm looking to get a little more out of it. Thanks for the advice also
    Cardio!,!,!

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    10-20 mins a day, three days a week while I'm cutting weight

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    30min of cardio A WEEK is not enough when you're cutting, imo.

    I think to better assess your question we'll need some pics and a complete diet lay out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D7M View Post
    30min of cardio A WEEK is not enough when you're cutting, imo.

    I think to better assess your question we'll need some pics and a complete diet lay out.
    Exactly. If you are doing 30 minutes of cardio in a week and looking towards drugs to aide you then you are trying to take the easy way out.

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    Alright ill put some up after work... As for my diet:

    6am. Kashi wheat waffle with table spoon of natural peanut butter

    8 am. Protein shake with 1.5 scooped whey

    11 am grilled chicken wrap on whole grain low fat wrap. Lettuce and no sauce

    2pm steak wrap, whole grain low fat wrap, lettuce, no sauce

    5pm small turkey sub, pre workout

    530-630 workout, two scoop whey shake after my workout

    8pm bbq steak or bbq chicken, two red skin potatoes and a salad with balsamic vinnigarette

    If hungry before bed ill take another one scoop whey
    Also around 2-3 cheat meals, not horrible meals but maybe a 93/7 burger on wheat bun, or small bag of chips to snack on while at work.

    Stats: 6'1
    212 pounds
    13-14% bf

    I went from 190 to 215 from august because I was trying to bulk. Now summer is on its way so I'm just started cutting this week.

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    I also workout five days a week at a good pace, and I do construction so that's why I never did much cardio but ill start doing a lot more cardio. Will to much cardio cause me to lose any of my muscle gains though?

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    Also I think it will help if I quit drinking those stupid red bulls I became addicted to. Almost one 12 oz can a day so I know cutting that out will help. Wasn't looking for the easy way either was just thinking if right before summer I wasn't exactly where I wanted I could use something. But understand that no one should rely on a supplement to aid results at my age especially.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlash88 View Post
    Alright ill put some up after work... As for my diet:

    6am. Kashi wheat waffle with table spoon of natural peanut butter

    8 am. Protein shake with 1.5 scooped whey (try a blended protein such as gaspari myofusion it will last the 3hours much better than ordinary whey)

    11 am grilled chicken wrap on whole grain low fat wrap. Lettuce and no sauce

    2pm steak wrap, whole grain low fat wrap, lettuce, no sauce

    5pm small turkey sub, pre workout

    530-630 workout, two scoop whey shake after my workout (try adding some carbs to this, either simple powdered carbs or powdered oats)

    8pm bbq steak or bbq chicken, two red skin potatoes and a salad with balsamic vinnigarette (brown rice or wholewheat pasta would be better than potatoes)

    If hungry before bed ill take another one scoop whey (try change to casein)
    Also around 2-3 cheat meals, not horrible meals but maybe a 93/7 burger on wheat bun, or small bag of chips to snack on while at work.

    Stats: 6'1
    212 pounds
    13-14% bf

    I went from 190 to 215 from august because I was trying to bulk. Now summer is on its way so I'm just started cutting this week.
    this is your problem i roughly count mabey 2500 cals at most there apart from the cheats, if cutting you need to stop them except for once a week, if your hungry then try something healthy like celary lol no seriously try a protein bar or make meals such as chicken and brown rice in bulk, put them in plastic containers and bring them to work, or a tuna salad sambo on brown bread, not ideal and depending on your culinary skill it may not exactely be fine dining but this is when you need to stop and think, do i want to eat burgers,chips etc or do i want to look good in the summer and have women all over me? and as time goes on you will pick up little recipes that will make ''health'' food alot nicer than you would of thought possible, and try pick up some casein for before bed it is MUCH better than whey before bed as whey is absorbed in somewhere between 30 mins and 2 hours where as casein takes up to 6 hours, keeping you full for longer and more importantly it makes sure your muscles arent starved of nutrients while you sleep
    Last edited by DanB; 01-23-2012 at 08:35 AM.

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    Wow thanks Danb, yea I've never had a real diet before so I didn't know much. I'll start taking out the cheat meals and that. Also ill order the casein protein today

    Being 6'1 at 212 pounds
    Trying to cut down to 195 pounds how many calories should I shoot for in a day?

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    Mods - Maybe move this to the nutrition section so that the right people will see it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlash88 View Post
    Wow thanks Danb, yea I've never had a real diet before so I didn't know much. I'll start taking out the cheat meals and that. Also ill order the casein protein today

    Being 6'1 at 212 pounds
    Trying to cut down to 195 pounds how many calories should I shoot for in a day?

    to be honest you would be better starting a thread in nutrition section, there are guys there alot more knowledgeable in this field than myself, i know my own body, diet and needs etc but i wouldnt like to say to you aim for 2600 and it turns out to be a little off and slows you down

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlash88 View Post
    Wow thanks Danb, yea I've never had a real diet before so I didn't know much. I'll start taking out the cheat meals and that. Also ill order the casein protein today

    Being 6'1 at 212 pounds
    Trying to cut down to 195 pounds how many calories should I shoot for in a day?
    I am/was your exact height and cut from 208 to 178 in three months with diet alone. I am 43 so should be much easier for you. I did it on about 1800 calories most days but stuck to a strict intermittent fasting schedule. If you are getting a few days of light cardio and not hitting the weights too intensely you could maybe swing 2500 calories a day. It is a real eye opener when you finally UNDERSTAND your diet and the effect it has. Sign up for one of those free calorie counting websites to help you out. Depending on your BF 20lbs should be a breeze if you stick to the suggestions from experienced members. I am now eating 45/35/20 at about 3000 calories a day and less concerned with actual weight. Still losing a little BF but gaining a little muscle as well. Look into IF and see if it is for you...
    Last edited by V-ROID; 01-23-2012 at 02:41 PM.

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    Alright thanks for the help and I started one in the nutrition section just a little bit ago

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