what to do about adex dosage

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well ive now been on adex 12 days and had 6mg total.. the ringing in my ears has all but left and i feel fine now what do yall think i should do? doc has me on 160mg test cyp/week split into 2 shots mon nit and fri morn... adex 1mg M/W/F = 3mg/week...hcg 250 IU 2x/week

he doesnt want bw for like 6 more weeks..

id hate to drop it and then he ask me why and i tell him cuz from what ive read and learned its supposed to be scripted at 1mg/100mgtest .. he is my doc..what should i look out for symptom-wise for low E2???

thx..

[Noles12]

well ive now been on adex 12 days and had 6mg total.. the ringing in my ears has all but left and i feel fine now what do yall think i should do? doc has me on 160mg test cyp/week split into 2 shots mon nit and fri morn... adex 1mg M/W/F = 3mg/week...hcg 250 IU 2x/week

he doesnt want bw for like 6 more weeks..

id hate to drop it and then he ask me why and i tell him cuz from what ive read and learned its supposed to be scripted at 1mg/100mgtest .. he is my doc..what should i look out for symptom-wise for low E2???

thx..

Im slightly confused. Where did you see that you should run 1 mg for every 100 mg of test?

[redz]

Seems like too much adex. Maybe .5mg eod would be better.

[steroid.com 1]

Noles - A number of TRT Docs will start out a protocol the first 6 weeks at a 1 mg AI to 100 mg of Test ratio than test in 6 weeks and make any necessary adjustments from there. It's not uncommon and my Doc does pretty much the same thing and he's in the know.

IMO 3 mg to 160 mw weekly is too much AI and I also think 250 iu of hCG twice a week is really on the low side. I take that amount every other day.

OP - Notice any change in libido or erection quality?

[kelkel]

Noles that seems to be the general concensus here on the TRT side. 405 be very careful. 1.5mg of adex per week crushed my E down to almost nothing. In my opinion, based on personal experience, I would start low and work up if needed. Not the other way around. Did you have an E2 sensitive assay run prior to starting this AI protocol? If he is your doc you should be comfortable enough to express your concerns to him. Call him if your bothered by this. That's what he is there for and his staff can relay a question and get back to you. Some signs are joint pain, loss of libido, dry skin. There's a bunch of symptoms for both high and low E. Google it.

[zaggahamma]

u feel fine so there u go

6 weeks will be here b4 u know it

like g stated...dont fix it if it aint broke

notice anything else in the 12 days?

[zaggahamma]

btw
look pretty lean in the avy bro

[--->>405<<---]

Noles - A number of TRT Docs will start out a protocol the first 6 weeks at a 1 mg AI to 100 mg of Test ratio than test in 6 weeks and make any necessary adjustments from there. It's not uncommon and my Doc does pretty much the same thing and he's in the know.

IMO 3 mg to 160 mw weekly is too much AI and I also think 250 iu of hCG twice a week is really on the low side. I take that amount every other day.

OP - Notice any change in libido or erection quality?

HCG: dont like the sound of that.. Maybe i should ask for more?? What will show up in BW to determine if HCG dose is sufficient or deficient?

Libido:great(too good LOL)
Erectionk thus far

[--->>405<<---]

Noles that seems to be the general concensus here on the TRT side. 405 be very careful. 1.5mg of adex per week crushed my E down to almost nothing. In my opinion, based on personal experience, I would start low and work up if needed. Not the other way around. Did you have an E2 sensitive assay run prior to starting this AI protocol? If he is your doc you should be comfortable enough to express your concerns to him. Call him if your bothered by this. That's what he is there for and his staff can relay a question and get back to you. Some signs are joint pain, loss of libido, dry skin. There's a bunch of symptoms for both high and low E. Google it.

Askd bout sensitive and he acted like he never heard of it??

Baseline E2: 24.1
6weeks in: 63

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Jpk: havent noticed anything else except i feel better and droppd a few lbs... Ringing in ears has pretty much left.. YAY!!

Avatar: thx man been hitting it pretty hard.. Another 2 months i think i may be happy

[flatscat]

You had a plan i thought to start dropping it down??????

[Vettester]

Askd bout sensitive and he acted like he never heard of it??

Baseline E2: 24.1
6weeks in: 63

405, maybe you posted it, but I just missed it ... Were you running any AI during the 6 week period when your E2 was 24, then jumped to 63? Presumed you found out your E2 was 63, which prompted the AI protocol of 3mg/wk.

I agree with others, 3mg would be excessive. As Kelk stated, it doesn't take much to drop it in the tank. 0.5mg x 3/wk (at most IMO) would be more suitable, and that might even need tapered down when you get back to the 20's. If your joints hurt, your sex drive bottoms out, your hair and nails go to hell, well, that's a good indicator that you're tanking your E2. It's not fun, and if you crash it the estrogen rebound isn't going to be any better. Go slow as advised. If it takes a little time to get it dialed in, that's fine. It took me over a year at one point with trial and error to really get to know my body.

[valcon]

well ive now been on adex 12 days and had 6mg total.. the ringing in my ears has all but left and i feel fine now what do yall think i should do? doc has me on 160mg test cyp/week split into 2 shots mon nit and fri morn... adex 1mg M/W/F = 3mg/week...hcg 250 IU 2x/week

he doesnt want bw for like 6 more weeks..

id hate to drop it and then he ask me why and i tell him cuz from what ive read and learned its supposed to be scripted at 1mg/100mgtest .. he is my doc..what should i look out for symptom-wise for low E2???

thx..

have u always had ringing in the ears, and do you think that the adex made them stop ringing?

[bass]

i agree with the guys regarding AI dose. and if i remember correctly you were not on AI prior to this, right? i believe i responded to that in another thread, your E2 was at 63 without AI and at a higher dose testosterone than 160. in my opinion 1 mg a week would do it for you, 0.5 mg after each injection! if you can't wait for your doc to run E2 test then do it yourself from online lab order, its not expensive, i think its $35 or so.

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You had a plan i thought to start dropping it down??????

Yeh we discussd it briefly when i first got it.. Just wanna be sure one thing to talk bout it.. Another to implement

[--->>405<<---]

Yeh guys i appreciate all the feedback.. Think i may do as recommended now and drop it to .5 day after the shot...

Question.. And a thought i had.. When E2 is high we start AI and bring it down.. When E2 is low u gotta pretty much wait.. As in theres no meds to"bring it up"..? Rite? And that could take longer than it took to bring it down which means dealn with symptoms of low E2 longer than dealn with high E2.. Is this correct?

And if so i csn also see why itd be better to be on less and still be a little higher than ideal vs being on too much and bottom out.. ?

[--->>405<<---]

So basically:

sunday:hcg 250iu
Monday:test 80mg
Tues:adex .5mg

Thu:hcg 250iu
Fri:test 80mg
Sat:adex .5mg

And also for the record:No i was not on any AI until BW came bak at 63E2.. Until then was running test at 100mg every 3.5days

[bass]

So basically:

sunday:hcg 250iu
Monday:test 80mg
Tues:adex .5mg

Thu:hcg 250iu
Fri:test 80mg
Sat:adex .5mg

And also for the record:No i was not on any AI until BW came bak at 63E2.. Until then was running test at 100mg every 3.5days

that looks good to me!

[flatscat]

Another option would be to knock it down to 1.5 for another week or two then down to 1.0 or .75. either way lowering from 3 is correct i think.

[--->>405<<---]

Another option would be to knock it down to 1.5 for another week or two then down to 1.0 or .75. either way lowering from 3 is correct i think.

Roger that.. Have been at 1mg m/w/f..

Will do .5mg m/w/f for 2 weeks
Then .5 day aftr shot

Now i get to try out my pill cutter

[jamotech]

And also for the record:No i was not on any AI until BW came bak at 63E2.. Until then was running test at 100mg every 3.5days

at 62 on 200mg a week no ai, curious to see the number change with 160 a week with 1mg ai a week added. Seems like you don't convert much so you shouldnt need much ai.

[HRTstudent]

we can talk about symptoms all day and night, but where's your blood work regarding estradiol?

[--->>405<<---]

we can talk about symptoms all day and night, but where's your blood work regarding estradiol?

How bout post#9 hrt?????? Ill refrain from the rest of my comment..

[zaggahamma]

Smack down

[HRTstudent]

How bout post#9 hrt?????? Ill refrain from the rest of my comment..

Ok... I've read that without the sensitive measure it isn't of much diagnostic value for males on TRT. So, I would say have him look into it. It exists... "sensitive" or "ultrasensitive".