GH and testosterone level (640) this should interest a few and 9 weeks cycle

[yannick35]

Ok for the GH my medical doctor refused to prescribe it, he told me that there is way to many side effects and he does not want to touch this. But he gave me the name of another doctor near my house, he told me that if i really wanted to get GH he was the one i had to go see.

Now i see a lot of people here asking questions about muscle pains, feeling symptoms of low T level even when T is fine or in normal range. Last year my T level was at 700, during the summer of this year i started to feel muscle spasm, pains that i never had before, coming on here i was starting to think that it was not related to my T level at all since according to the numbers i am in range. Low T from what my medical doctor explained to me is when a patient T is below 400. Note that i was also a bit anemic this summer due to that H202 peroxide and fasting diet and just plain eating bad foods.

But even was i had severe anemia 2 years ago due to depression, drinking way too much caffeine and more i never had the muscle spams pains.

My medical doctor told me this morning that anyone who gets below 700 and is near 40 can experiment muscle spams like i did this summer and also light anemia.

My dosage has been dropped from 200mg per 10 days to 100mg, and i am going for a complete blood test at the end of the month.

I am 9 weeks into my cycle of deca switched to NNP, Test E 100mg per week, also got a great deal on EQ so i added that at 300mg per week i dropped the masteron, added and AI i use letro at 0.25 per week and its working great, also keep in hand an OTC diuretic in case of water retention.

All i can say is that my body responds a lot better to the prolotherapy treatments, it heals a lot faster too. So far all is good.

[bass]

keep us posted on your blood work Yannik, and thanks for the post.

[yannick35]

Just got back from my prolo treatment, things are flying, i guess that adding anabolic to the mix did what it was suppose to do and speed up the healing process. Prolo never worked that fast before.

[jamotech]

Glad to hear your good news yanni, did you mean you switched to NPP? and how often are you injecting it?

[yannick35]

Glad to hear your good news yanni, did you mean you switched to NPP? and how often are you injecting it?

I got a deal on NNP inject 2 times per week after that i go back to regular deca to finish off my 20 week cycle, man prolo and gear is the $hit i am still amazed at how fast everything is coming togheter.

I got a source for GH i can buy separate bottle per unit, i might buy a few a prolo treatment in the hip would be like 2IU, if i can buy 18IU that is 9 treatments that can be added to the cocktail.

[Vettester]

Why the EQ?

[yannick35]

Why the EQ?

Kick anemia in the A$$, collagen production nothing more. Before started TRT my anemia level had dropped back to 134, for prolotherapy to work it cannot be that low, now the levels are back at 165, so i am prime.

I am done with EQ it served its purpose very well tough.

[jamotech]

I got a deal on NNP inject 2 times per week after that i go back to regular deca to finish off my 20 week cycle, man prolo and gear is the $hit i am still amazed at how fast everything is coming togheter.

I got a source for GH i can buy separate bottle per unit, i might buy a few a prolo treatment in the hip would be like 2IU, if i can buy 18IU that is 9 treatments that can be added to the cocktail.

What is NNP?

[yannick35]

What is NNP?

NNP is fast acting deca durabolin with a lot less side effects, usually use it to start a deca cycle since its faster acting then move on to regular deca, this stuff is more expensive tought, but it kicks your buTTTT

[jamotech]

Nandrolone Phenylpropionate I asume, NPP.

[yannick35]

Nandrolone Phenylpropionate I asume, NPP.

That's it. I will not be using deca after this 20 week cycle, its very hard on the system, and when everything is repaired its back to good old 100mg test E per week for me.

[JD250]

That's it. I will not be using deca after this 20 week cycle, its very hard on the system

Please explain this more.

[Vettester]

Kick anemia in the A$$, collagen production nothing more. Before started TRT my anemia level had dropped back to 134, for prolotherapy to work it cannot be that low, now the levels are back at 165, so i am prime.

I am done with EQ it served its purpose very well tough.

That is interesting to hear. I have the exact opposite, my iron is high ... Well, it's in range thanks to donating blood.

[yannick35]

Please explain this more.

From what i have been told, deca will affect HTP5 1 and 2 at some point at the start of a cycle most people will feel joyful, but has the cycle goes on for more then say 10 weeks there might be a huge turnover and that joyful feeling can turnaround to depression and lethargy.

This does not come from me, its the guy that gave me the gear to repair my body that told me so.

Same has TRT being very personal to each person, he is 52 been on TRT for close to 20 years, he says that its a feeling process, he is between 100-150mg per 7 or 10 days, he says that he goes by feeling. This all sounds good to me so far.

[yannick35]

That is interesting to hear. I have the exact opposite, my iron is high ... Well, it's in range thanks to donating blood.

Remember that my soul purpose for using gear right now is to speed up healing and complement my prolotherapy treatments. EQ was just one part of the equation. Deca test E and Methyl D are part of the rest.

I have started a huge tread in the injury section on this forum about prolotherapy. Check it out

[Vettester]

The doctor I used to go to for HRT in west LA does the prolotherapy. It took one video of seeing those long ass needles going into peoples knees and elbows to say, "I'll pass, thank you very much." I've heard some good reviews on it, but I'd rather avoid the swordfish.

[bass]

The doctor I used to go to for HRT in west LA does the prolotherapy. It took one video of seeing those long ass needles going into peoples knees and elbows to say, "I'll pass, thank you very much." I've heard some good reviews on it, but I'd rather avoid the swordfish.

LOL! that was my reaction too! no thanks.

[JD250]

deca will affect HTP5 1 and 2

Someone help me here. What does this mean?

[yannick35]

The doctor I used to go to for HRT in west LA does the prolotherapy. It took one video of seeing those long ass needles going into peoples knees and elbows to say, "I'll pass, thank you very much." I've heard some good reviews on it, but I'd rather avoid the swordfish.

I understand what you guys mean, but when you suffer from chronic pain, and prolo offers that much relief its the right thing to do. Also not everyone does it like Hauser. Prolo can be done like a regular injection simply pushing the needle where it needs to go, and not stabbing, or pushing the needles a million times in.

Note that stabbing and doing like Hauser will cause double inflammation, the stabbing motion and the points of entery also some prolotherapist like the new guy i am seeing does an accuponcture motion inside de body near the ligament to create micro tears to cause even more inflammation.

[yannick35]

Someone help me here. What does this mean?

It means that when you start using deca you feel good, your serotonin is high, and you feel great, but after a while you get the reverse effect and you start to feel depression and lethargy.

Not sure if that even make sense i am just passing on what i been told, it might be total bull for all i know.

But like i said i am almost finish with the cycle and don't plan to run anything else afterwared. Only my TRT protocol.

[JD250]

It means that when you start using deca you feel good, your serotonin is high, and you feel great, but after a while you get the reverse effect and you start to feel depression and lethargy.

Not sure if that even make sense i am just passing on what i been told, it might be total bull for all i know.

But like i said i am almost finish with the cycle and don't plan to run anything else afterwared. Only my TRT protocol.

I was trying to understand what you meant when you posted HPT5 1 and 2. I would love to see a study or at least an article about this, I think it's total bro science, there are several mechanisms at work with Nandrolone that could cause mood issues but they are easily handled with readily available compounds for the few that need them and to my knowledge are not permenant, we need to be careful when we present something as fact.

I'm glad to see you getting your protocol narrowed down and in line Yannick, get dialed in on a decent TRT protocol (Test, HCG, AI) and stick with it for a year and you'll be surprised at how well you feel.

[yannick35]

I was trying to understand what you meant when you posted HPT5 1 and 2. I would love to see a study or at least an article about this, I think it's total bro science, there are several mechanisms at work with Nandrolone that could cause mood issues but they are easily handled with readily available compounds for the few that need them and to my knowledge are not permenant, we need to be careful when we present something as fact.

I'm glad to see you getting your protocol narrowed down and in line Yannick, get dialed in on a decent TRT protocol (Test, HCG, AI) and stick with it for a year and you'll be surprised at how well you feel.

Yes JD250 i am getting has you say Dialed on a TRT protocol, like i said i don't plan on doing cycle after cycle until i die LOL.

[jamotech]

That's it. I will not be using deca after this 20 week cycle, its very hard on the system, and when everything is repaired its back to good old 100mg test E per week for me.

How often are you injecting the NPP, at least 2x a week I hope?

[yannick35]

How often are you injecting the NPP, at least 2x a week I hope?

I am done with NNP, its just to kick start everything bro, yes its 2-3 times per week depending on dosage, i used 100mg 3 X week for about 4 weeks or so.