Need advice on friends cycle. Lookin pretty iffy to me...

[bbweld04]

My friend wants to run a cycle and I told him his cycle isn't good but I'm one man and I don't have extensive experience. I someone with vast experience to tell him why this cycle is bad, the problems he will most likely encounter, side effects, and what type of gains this will yield. I don't want to hear that he needs to research more and isn't ready just the facts! He's an adult and he will do a cycle. I'd just like to steer him towards a better cycle.

His goals are he wants to bulk up then shred before summer.
His plan is too take 6 weeks of dbol them a cycle of just winny directly after. To me one seems to contradict the other and by the end he will just even out and look the same but I'm no expert.

My suggestion was do a 10 week cycle of test cyp or test enenthate with anavar added maybe a month or so in. Also with a clean diet. Any thoughts on this?

Thanks guys!

[DanB]

Its terrible I.M.O and I wouldnt run it

Best advise you can give him is to join the board and have a look around, then mabey he will think hmmm not many people like my idea I wonder why?

[TFf]

In theory his "cycle" makes sense dbol to bulk and winny to cuz but you are correct, that is a horrible idea, also you are correct to run a test cycle.. Hopefully a vet will give you an answer on how this will affect his body... Also Im assumeing he can run test and keep a clean diet and run an AI and stay somewhat lean...?

[gearbox]

Just another ignorant (probably young guy) thinking aas are magic pills
Running oral only is a waste of time, money, and your liver. And he wants to run two back to back!

I hope he listening to you op and runs a test only in the future when he reads some himself. And has a proper pct with ai

[JP-MAN]

here is the truth, he is not ready and has to do more research.
ur statement about him being an adult and going to do a cycle is just plain ignorant.

ur friend is a moron if thats the cycle he came up with.

just for kicks, what are his stats?

[bbweld04]

Just for kicks his stats are age 26 height 6' weight 185 bf 12% and has been an athlete his whole life worked out to help stay in shape for sports but never a "body builder" he dosnt play sports now so now he's focused a little more on the gym. He wants to put on muscle and be more cut up. The men's fitness type of look not Arnold. And regardless of weather my comment was ignorant its the plain and simple truth. It dosnt make a difference what I or his girlfriend or anyone says he will and going to do juice. I'm not looking for a discussion on how he's not ready because either way he is doing then. But maybe with some help and proper knowledge I can steer him in the safest direction possible and help him get the gains and the cut up look he wants.

I know why this cycle seems dumb to me but really I don't have a lot of knowledge on this subject so maybe I'm wrong. To me it seems like the dbol will give him a bunch of water and little muscle and the winny will suck the water back out as I've heard it does that. Seems pointless? Also he's shutting down his test production without adding a test. I'd imagine poor libido and limp dick isn't too far behind. But really what I need is a more experienced individual to tear this cycle apart and list the reasons why it's no good. Then if possible recommend the proper cycle. I think mine I suggested was ok. The test would bulk hI'm up give him some new muscle and with proper diet the var would help keep fat down but once again not properly experienced enough to give this advice....

[Hazard]

If he wanted to bulk and then cut for summer he should hav started bulking in dec/jan. Now he wants to increase his calories and use Dbol to put on size..... but then he's going to run winny, do cardio, and cut calories to lose fat. His body wont have enough time to get used to the added weight from his bulk and he's just going to throw everything off.

Bulk or cut..... one or the other....

On another note - he doesn't even sound anywhere near ready tos tart fvcking with his hormones. Thats exactly what you are doing..... it's not like you are taking a pill and THAT PILL causes muscle growth. You are taking substances that alter your hormones...... people don't understand this.....

~Haz~