Cutting while Bullking

[M. seag]

I'm 22 yrs. old, 5'10, 215lbs Currently where I'm at now. Everyone knows summer is around the corner and myself like others want to be cut and bulk at the same time if possible. I was wondering if anyone could offer useful tips, advice, or workouts to reach my goal. PLEASE NO SARCASTIC REMARKS OR BASHINGS.

[V-ROID]

I had a good response but I had to delete it after I re-read your last line... Just figure out your TDEE. Set your weight goal. Hit your macro goal. Workout/cardio and whatever calorie deficit you need to achieve your goal. It is simple really, just not easy if you are one to be lazy.

[rockinred]

There's really no cut and bulk at the same time. I would say to work on cutting if you want to show more muscle. Many times if you cut, the definition comes out and you actually look bigger. So that might help out your dilemma of trying to do both which is impossible. head over to diet section and post of stats to get some feedback on that. Routine should remain intense. This is workout section so if you want throw up some info on your routine to critique or go over. Based on your message you are looking more for diet advise.

[M. seag]

There's really no cut and bulk at the same time. I would say to work on cutting if you want to show more muscle. Many times if you cut, the definition comes out and you actually look bigger. So that might help out your dilemma of trying to do both which is impossible. head over to diet section and post of stats to get some feedback on that. Routine should remain intense. This is workout section so if you want throw up some info on your routine to critique or go over. Based on your message you are looking more for diet advise.

This is my current workout my workout that i made, thought it was ideal for my goals

15 reps 3 sets each, light rest; bike or treadmill/ elliptical 7 to start.. 7 to finish..


Monday

Incline Dumbbell Flys
Abs. 10reps

Leg Press
Abs. 10reps

Front Raises
Abs. 10reps

Lat Pulldowns
Abs. 10reps

E-Z Bar Curls
Abs. 10reps

Close Grip Bench Incline
Abs. 10reps



Wednesday

Dumbbell Bench
Abs. 10 reps

Weighted Box Jumps
Abs. 10 reps

Inverted Rows
Abs. 10 reps

Cables
Abs. 10 reps

Dips
Abs. 10 reps



Friday

Wide Grip Bench
Abs. 10 reps

Single Leg Squat
Abs. 10 reps

Reverse Flys (Cables)
Abs. 10 reps

Heavy Curl
Abs. 10 reps

Pull Downs or Push Downs
Abs. 10 reps

[M. seag]

I had a good response but I had to delete it after I re-read your last line... Just figure out your TDEE. Set your weight goal. Hit your macro goal. Workout/cardio and whatever calorie deficit you need to achieve your goal. It is simple really, just not easy if you are one to be lazy.

Lol yeah man I thought it seem reasonable to do but I guess not.

[V-ROID]

Oh I think you can drop 20-25 lbs by summer no problem and "look" bigger in the process...

[rockinred]

This is my current workout my workout that i made, thought it was ideal for my goals

15 reps 3 sets each, light rest; bike or treadmill/ elliptical 7 to start.. 7 to finish..


Monday

Incline Dumbbell Flys
Abs. 10reps

Leg Press
Abs. 10reps

Front Raises
Abs. 10reps

Lat Pulldowns
Abs. 10reps

E-Z Bar Curls
Abs. 10reps

Close Grip Bench Incline
Abs. 10reps



Wednesday

Dumbbell Bench
Abs. 10 reps

Weighted Box Jumps
Abs. 10 reps

Inverted Rows
Abs. 10 reps

Cables
Abs. 10 reps

Dips
Abs. 10 reps



Friday

Wide Grip Bench
Abs. 10 reps

Single Leg Squat
Abs. 10 reps

Reverse Flys (Cables)
Abs. 10 reps

Heavy Curl
Abs. 10 reps

Pull Downs or Push Downs
Abs. 10 reps

Well it seems that you have all the groups covered and doing a routine/program that will tone you up and give you an overall "fit" look. If you want to build a little more base of muscle I would replace a lot of the toning exercises for compound movements. Like military press for shoulders. Regular squats as oppose to one leg squats. Also, if you are trying to lean up what type of cardio days do you have and at what intesity(length,etc.)?

Other than that, as I stated, if you are looking to tone up and look fit. I don't see much to critique off your set up here.... it's always relevant to goals. There almost is no wrong when it comes to staying fit and healthy. The only final advice I can give you is to stay at it. Too often people work hard off and on. The ones that stay consistent achieve the results.

[M. seag]

Well it seems that you have all the groups covered and doing a routine/program that will tone you up and give you an overall "fit" look. If you want to build a little more base of muscle I would replace a lot of the toning exercises for compound movements. Like military press for shoulders. Regular squats as oppose to one leg squats. Also, if you are trying to lean up what type of cardio days do you have and at what intesity(length,etc.)?

Other than that, as I stated, if you are looking to tone up and look fit. I don't see much to critique off your set up here.... it's always relevant to goals. There almost is no wrong when it comes to staying fit and healthy. The only final advice I can give you is to stay at it. Too often people work hard off and on. The ones that stay consistent achieve the results.

Thanks a lot man this really helped, for cardio i do 8 mins. before and 12 mins. after I don't want to do too much because i still want the bulk look.

[M. seag]

Oh I think you can drop 20-25 lbs by summer no problem and "look" bigger in the process...

any workouts you could provide? and how much cardio should i do?

[V-ROID]

As much or as little as you choose. Either way it is all about getting a calorie deficit. Of course exercising will firm you up. Like I said, find a detailed TDEE calculator and get a ballpark of your maintenance calories. Then drop that by 500/week either through exercise, diet, intermittent fasting or a combination of both. Actually IF sounds right up your alley... Figure out your protein, carbs, and fat ratio and stick to it. Use myfitnesspal or similar to get you started then it will be automatic. It will work.

[D7M]

Like the others said, you can't really cut and bulk at the same time.

Looking at your pics, I think you need to focus on cutting first.

Don't be one of those guys who gets lean and freaks out thinking he is "skinny". If you do it right, you can maintain your muscle, and loose the fat.

Get in the Nutrition section and get a detailed plan going.

I would suggest, as a general principle, not to start cutting cals first. Keep cals at or above your TDEE and use cardio to create the caloric deficiency.

[havehotasianwife]

i have had really good luck with doing 4 sets per body part and keeping the rep scheme at "10-8-6-6" then depending how i feel at the end, sometimes i will add a fst-7 set at the end. its really blownup my triceps in the past 6 months.

i am cutting right now and the more bf you lose, the bigger you look because you dont have layers of fat covering up angular aspects of different muscle groups. i recommend working hard and just getting your bf to 10% or below and then work on doing a slow clean bulk. just remember,, rome wasnt built in a day

[MACKATTACK]

Thanks a lot man this really helped, for cardio i do 8 mins. before and 12 mins. after I don't want to do too much because i still want the bulk look.

Pointless cardio........

any workouts you could provide? and how much cardio should i do?

HIIT....or constant and keep your heart rate down and do a minimum of 30 mins best to do 45mins.....

Incline slow walk on tredmill....

Stairmaster slowly.....

[rockinred]

I agree with mack OP. Your cardio is not cardio. That is probably considered warm up and cool down if anything.

[hex]

IF is great, a lil rough to start maintains LBM well i have lost none. but as for WO i would agree lots of compound helps burn cals and maintain LBM plus tey get addicting trying to beat last week.

[hex]

and 5x5 seems popular atm and its a 3 day split

[Gaspari1255]

Bro.....in all honesty- that work out routine is horrible- regardless if you want to cut or bulk..

[M. seag]

i have had really good luck with doing 4 sets per body part and keeping the rep scheme at "10-8-6-6" then depending how i feel at the end, sometimes i will add a fst-7 set at the end. its really blownup my triceps in the past 6 months.

i am cutting right now and the more bf you lose, the bigger you look because you dont have layers of fat covering up angular aspects of different muscle groups. i recommend working hard and just getting your bf to 10% or below and then work on doing a slow clean bulk. just remember,, rome wasnt built in a day

I thought it seemed like a reasonable method. Now did u drop weight the further in the sets you went?

[M. seag]

Bro.....in all honesty- that work out routine is horrible- regardless if you want to cut or bulk..

What would you're preference be for cutting?

[havehotasianwife]

I thought it seemed like a reasonable method. Now did u drop weight the further in the sets you went?

No, as rep went down, weight went up

[MACKATTACK]

What would you're preference be for cutting?

Cut = Cardio................................drop the weight a little and increase the reps 3x15 on everything and up the intensity, you can do a circuit....