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    hard time drawing out from vial!

    i have Sust 250. i used a 25g 1.5' needle. had an awfull hard time drawing out juice from vial. i pulled back to 1.5ml, stuck in vial, drew air into, still super hard. is the 25g too small?

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    its going to be slow with that gauge and 1.5 but it works. remember it is oil its not going to be a 2 sec thing
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    should i use 20g to draw it out, then switch to 23g to inject? cause it was kinda hard to inject it out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blazinballa View Post
    should i use 20g to draw it out, then switch to 23g to inject? cause it was kinda hard to inject it out...
    you can. i use 25 for every injection. I think your being a little impatient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blazinballa View Post
    i have Sust 250. i used a 25g 1.5' needle. had an awfull hard time drawing out juice from vial. i pulled back to 1.5ml, stuck in vial, drew air into, still super hard. is the 25g too small?
    i don't think u created the vacuum effect big enough. next time pull the dropper all the back, (fill with air) then shoot all the air into the vial. like gixxer said its oil so its gonna be slow, but this shod help u a lil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    you can. i use 25 for every injection. I think your being a little impatient.
    yeah that ^

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    I use a 25 gauge tip everytime out of the vial. Then switch to a 23 gauge. I dont like to wait and keeps the pin nice and sharp. Good luck keep us posted on your progress.

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    Use an 18 guage to draw. Your life will be so much easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigershark View Post
    Use an 18 guage to draw. Your life will be so much easier.
    18 gauge is what I meant to say, sorry its been a long day. pull with a 25 shoot with a 23 make absolutely zero sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigershark View Post
    Use an 18 guage to draw. Your life will be so much easier.
    A WHOLEEE lot easier lol. When I ran out of my 18 gauge I had to use the 25 gauge and that I couldn't pull it

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    Yup, it's a lot easier to push/inject than it is to draw. I use a 21 or 18g to draw and 23 or 25g to inject.

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    i got sum 21g 1.5" (i wanted 1" but pharm didnt have) to draw out. still gonna inject with 25g cause pharm didnt have 23g

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    Quote Originally Posted by blazinballa View Post
    i have Sust 250. i used a 25g 1.5' needle. had an awfull hard time drawing out juice from vial. i pulled back to 1.5ml, stuck in vial, drew air into, still super hard. is the 25g too small?
    Use a 20g to draw and 23g to inject.

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    25g works fine for injection. I have had to use 30g a few times. It takes forever but you sure dont feel anything.

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    I always draw with a 22g and pin with a 25g. This limits wear and tear on my stoppers and muscles.

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    18-20gauge to draw.... Switch needle to 25gauge. 25gauge makes you push the aas/oil in just slow enough. It's not good to inject quickly. It should be a slow process... Even after you have finished injecting, you should still keep the needle in you for another 10-20seconds. You can lose a lot of aas if you pull the needle out immediately. Goal is to have just a tiny spec of blood after you pull out, no clear stuff... Just a tiny amount of blood if any at all.

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    bro if u can get a hold of a 18g pin to draw from the jar your life will get much easier, ive been using them for over 10 yrs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigershark
    Use an 18 guage to draw. Your life will be so much easier.
    Iam with you I use 19g to draw and 22g to shoot

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpowell View Post
    i don't think u created the vacuum effect big enough. next time pull the dropper all the back, (fill with air) then shoot all the air into the vial. like gixxer said its oil so its gonna be slow, but this shod help u a lil.
    Very bad idea. If you put too much more air into the bottle than you're drawing, and especially doing this frequently, your bottle will end up with so much air pressure that it start squirting air and oil out through the small piercings, I learned this the hard way. You should only be injecting as much air as the amount of oil that you're taking out, maintaining equal pressure.

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    I use blunt tips to draw, they are fecking hugeee haha. Makes life easy though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBrian View Post
    Very bad idea. If you put too much more air into the bottle than you're drawing, and especially doing this frequently, your bottle will end up with so much air pressure that it start squirting air and oil out through the small piercings, I learned this the hard way. You should only be injecting as much air as the amount of oil that you're taking out, maintaining equal pressure.
    !00% agree with Brian. i was about to write up the same response as i had made the same mistake just the other day.

    rule of thumb: to create a positive vacuum, inject the same amount of air into vial as the oil you are removing.

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    lol. yikes. thanx for the heads up. disregard my input!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpowell View Post
    lol. yikes. thanx for the heads up. disregard my input!
    Better to learn from other's mistakes than your own, I always say.

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    yep its confirmed! i used 21g 1.5" to draw from vial, soooo much easier. like 30sec as opposed to 5+min with a 25g! still used 25g to inject i can live with it

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    & i did inject 1ml of air into vial before drawing

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