Should I stop cycle? Experienced members only please....

[talon2005]

4th week into cycle
Armi .5/d
150 test e/weekly
50mg/d winnie
cytomel 75mcg/d
6'2 29YOM 20%BF
80% Paleo

For the last 3 days felt physical effects of increased BP. Confirmed through manual taking of BP Average resting is 180/100 80-90HR. Possibility of slight irreg HR.
Haven't noticed BP issue until now. Did notice slight increase weeks 2-3 nothing this significant. 150/80average

Wondering if it could be starting of the cytomel which has been just for the last 10 days, increased daily to 75mcg/day. That has been only for the last 3/days. Pretty funny that I'm noticing this with the start and increase of the cyotmel.

Looking online see that there are some side effects of similar symptoms to what I am presenting with Cytomel. But also the cycle could be cause.

I need to fix it this and fast. It's freaking me out and I feel like shit.
I'm afraid to workout even for fear of increase to danger stroke out levels or possibility of perm venous damage.


Q1-Cut the Cytomel out? If so do I cut it out cold?
Q2-Stop entire cycle start pct in 2 weeks? Did notice a slight increase on just roids, it could've increased again....
Q3-Continue to work out or wait till BP lowers?

Thanks guys.

[gixxerboy1]

stop everything and do pct in 2 weeks.
This is part of the reason people with high bf% shouldnt cycle

[talon2005]

Have never done caliper check, just looked up what 20% BF looked like and ya I'm more like 15% if that....
Its not like Im just starting working out dieting etc... Been at this well over a year now, just my first cycle.

Does this change your opinion?

[gixxerboy1]

no it doesnt high bp can be dangerous

[talon2005]

In regards to working out, on hiatus till BP back within normal ranges?

[27300man]

I would stop cycle and start pct. you BP is really high bro. You could die if not taking proper precautions. Normal BP should be in the range of 120/80. I don't think it has anything to do with BF%.

[werms]

I suggest you see a doctor. He could assist and possibly write you a script for BP medication to help you come off the aas

[BBrian]

While on cycle, it's perfectly normal to not have normal blood pressure. Do you guys really think that he should just up and stop his cycle with a 180/100, or wouldn't it make more sense to simply take measures to lower this some? I'm sure that while I was taking Anadrol I was at this point or higher, but I certainly wasn't going to stop and run a PCT because of it.

[gixxerboy1]

While on cycle, it's perfectly normal to not have normal blood pressure. Do you guys really think that he should just up and stop his cycle with a 180/100, or wouldn't it make more sense to simply take measures to lower this some? I'm sure that while I was taking Anadrol I was at this point or higher, but I certainly wasn't going to stop and run a PCT because of it.

I've never had my bp go that high, I'd rather air on the side of caution.

[BBrian]

I've never had my bp go that high, I'd rather air on the side of caution.

Well, I certainly can't argue with that. What would you say is the range of bp that you typically max out at during a cycle?

[gixxerboy1]

Well, I certainly can't argue with that. What would you say is the range of bp that you typically max out at during a cycle?

right now im on test, tren , winny and gh and i was 122 over 70 last week. Thats resting. I've never taken it mid workout

[marcus300]

Agree with gixxer, stop the cycle and go into pct in 2 weeks.
I also don't understand why your running 150mgs of test e, not even worth the shut down IMHO and a complete waste of time.

[TFf]

180/100 is high but... I would become really worried if your combined (systolic and diastolic) equal over three hundred. How is your sodium intake and how much cardio do you do?

[JohnnyVegas]

While on cycle, it's perfectly normal to not have normal blood pressure. Do you guys really think that he should just up and stop his cycle with a 180/100, or wouldn't it make more sense to simply take measures to lower this some? I'm sure that while I was taking Anadrol I was at this point or higher, but I certainly wasn't going to stop and run a PCT because of it.

My opinion: BP is not to be ignored. They call it the silent killer because it kills you when you feel fine. My blood pressure spiked as high as his and my doctor freaked out. Combine that with increased red blood cell and platelet production and your risks of stroke go up considerably. Combine AAS and high blood pressure and you risk left ventricle hypertrophy. Being unwilling to stop a cycle when something goes wrong is negating all the reading we do to learn how to lower the risks.

180/100 is high but... I would become really worried if your combined (systolic and diastolic) equal over three hundred. How is your sodium intake and how much cardio do you do?

I am not a doctor, and I caution anyone else that isn't to stop encouraging someone with high blood pressure to continue taking anything. It does seem unlikely that the spike is caused by such a low Test dose, but it is best to stop. Next time add things progressively so you can see how your body reacts to each thing you take.

[BBrian]

My opinion: BP is not to be ignored. They call it the silent killer because it kills you when you feel fine. My blood pressure spiked as high as his and my doctor freaked out. Combine that with increased red blood cell and platelet production and your risks of stroke go up considerably. Combine AAS and high blood pressure and you risk left ventricle hypertrophy. Being unwilling to stop a cycle when something goes wrong is negating all the reading we do to learn how to lower the risks.



I am not a doctor, and I caution anyone else that isn't to stop encouraging someone with high blood pressure to continue taking anything. It does seem unlikely that the spike is caused by such a low Test dose, but it is best to stop. Next time add things progressively so you can see how your body reacts to each thing you take.

Yes, I'm very aware of the hazards of high blood pressure, that's why I asked if it would make more sense to take action to lower it instead of stopping a low dose cycle altogether. If we were led to believe that we should stop a cycle when blood pressure rises, we would never finish most cycles, but I didn't state that he shouldn't stop the cycle either.

[TFf]

I did not say he should stop or continue I was heading some additional advise and inquiring about two factors that can contribute to hypertension.. I am seconding bbrians opinion

[JohnnyVegas]

Yes, I'm very aware of the hazards of high blood pressure, that's why I asked if it would make more sense to take action to lower it instead of stopping a low dose cycle altogether. If we were led to believe that we should stop a cycle when blood pressure rises, we would never finish most cycles, but I didn't state that he shouldn't stop the cycle either.

Nothing against you. I stated up front that it was just my opinion. I have had blood pressure that high, and I stopped. Just speaking from personal experience. My BP has STILL not dropped to normal after months, so there is more to it than just stopping whatever you are taking (or starting to take a supplement) and everything magically returns to normal right away. I believe it is important to stop and figure out what the problem is. I tried several of the sups that are supposed to help and nothing did. I am on Cozzar until we figure out what caused the spike. Blood work is clean.

You said you were not going to stop a cycle because of high blood pressure and I was saying that YOU might want to reconsider if your blood pressure gets THAT high. I wasn't saying you told him not to stop. I was just addressing your comment. Sorry I was unclear.

I did not say he should stop or continue I was heading some additional advise and inquiring about two factors that can contribute to hypertension.. I am seconding bbrians opinion

Agreed - you didn't say to continue. But you said you wouldn't be really worried unless it was higher and wanted to talk about things that seem to have less of an effect on his BP than the Test, Winnie, AI and Cytomel do.

Blood pressure above 180/100 is a serious deal. My understanding is that you shouldn't be doing much in the way of exercise when that high, but we are usually putting a load on our bodies (I assume he isn't taking these things and sitting on the couch waiting for gains) that cause BP to raise significantly over resting BP.

I wasn't going after either one of you guys. I especially like BBrian.

[TFf]

Argued. I wouldnt want a bp of 180 over anything but I would become More concerned at a bp of 300 Combined and yea all thos compounds can increase bp. I'm not an expert by any means but if you take all those and do no cardio and eat high fat foods and lots of sodium your bp is going to elevate. Even off a cycle.

OP - you might have mentioned but how long has your bp been that high?

[JohnnyVegas]

Argued. I wouldnt want a bp of 180 over anything but I would become More concerned at a bp of 300 Combined and yea all thos compounds can increase bp. I'm not an expert by any means but if you take all those and do no cardio and eat high fat foods and lots of sodium your bp is going to elevate. Even off a cycle.

OP - you might have mentioned but how long has your bp been that high?

I don't agree that cardio, salt and fat intake is a more logical cause than the addition of powerful drugs like Testosterone, Winstrol, Arimidex and Cytomel.

Still, there is nothing to argue over. Everyone has given their advice and the OP can do what he wants.

My guess is that you and I are different ages. My feelings of invulnerability are long gone, and the importance of health is more obvious.

[gixxerboy1]

I agree with you Johnny.
Also the could be a major health risk. I dont want to give some advice that could land them in a hospital. Its just a cycle its not worth it

[TFf]

Alright man.. Sorry. My points are not coming across how I intended. My bad

[boxin23]

im sorry maybe i missed it, but what is your regular BP; resting and post work out?

[BBrian]

Nothing against you. I stated up front that it was just my opinion. I have had blood pressure that high, and I stopped. Just speaking from personal experience. My BP has STILL not dropped to normal after months, so there is more to it than just stopping whatever you are taking (or starting to take a supplement) and everything magically returns to normal right away. I believe it is important to stop and figure out what the problem is. I tried several of the sups that are supposed to help and nothing did. I am on Cozzar until we figure out what caused the spike. Blood work is clean.

That's a very good point. Many months after I have finished a cycle, I still feel the residual affects of elevated blood pressure. I still have a high core temperature and my blood pressure takes a very long time to return to normal.