How does my test e tren e winny cycle look?

[curly_vancouver]

Hey guys, I'm new to the forum and just left ef and the marketing gimics. Much happier on this site.
Planning on running a lean mass/cutting cycle in june to look perfect for the first weekend of aug. Goal is to put on 10 pounds of mucle while dropping to around 8% and get a killer 6pk

Looks like this so far
Weeks 1-10 TNT 400 (250test e, 150tren e) 2cc a week
Weeks 4-10 winny pills 50 mg per day
weeks 1-14 aromasin 12.5 per day
Weeks 1-10 Hcg 250 iu 2x a week
? Weeks 1-4 dbol 50mg a day??? Not sure about this
Pct
Week 11-12 hcg 1000iu e3d
Week 12-16 clomid 50/25/25/12.5
The only problem I can really see with cycle so far is that I should technically run test longer then the tren but that is not an option as I have premixed TNT.

One question, should I wait 2 weeks for test to clear and start pct week 12 or just the one?

Will also be running clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off throughout the cycle, tapering from 20-120-20. I have ran clen many times before and respond very well to it with little sides.

Also fish oil, multivitamin, milk thistle and glucosamine everyday

Still trying to track down some prami or caber locally as it is the one thing my source doesn't have, will go online if I have to.

One last question, if I were to throw some dbol in at 50mg a day week 1-4 how much of that mass would I keep through the cycle? Should I do it? Is it a bad idea to run 2 17-aa's back to back like that?

my stats are
21
6'2
215lbs
11-12%bf
training for 5 years, lifting heavy for 3.
i dont want to hear about how young i am
i ran a var only cycle when i was 17 and a winny only when i was 18, both were when i was un educated and i was a dumb kid. now i have done a few years of reaserch and am confident that i can cycle safely now. and i will never run another cycle again with out test and pct. there is no way i can wait any longer anyways,

[blksavage]

I'm intrested to here what replys you get because I was wondering about the d bol weeks 1 thru 4 I'm running something close which is test cypionate tren ethanate and masteron I wanted to run dbol weeks 1 thru 4 also and winny 9 thru 12 and I also have clen wa unsure to drop the dbol and save for another cycle and use the clen in the beginning or run it with winny

[blksavage]

damn im sorry I hi jacked your thread

[DeadlyD]

Wow that's a lot of gear!! HCG on cycle up till PCT is good, should add nolvadex to PCT aswell, as far as the TNT just run test prop for 2 weeks after the TNT then start PCT 3 days later, caber on hand would very good also. Are you planning on running an AI like adex on cycle aswell?

[DeadlyD]

I just noticed your Clomid dose is weak. PCT should be
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/100/50/50

[curly_vancouver]

Yep, right in the middle of the cycle list there I say that I'm running aromasin weeks 1-14 at 12.5 a day.
I like the idea about the prop, I had this idea in my head that I had to use enth cuz thats what I was on throughout the cycle but i guess test is test. But if I'm going to be buying another bottle dose it matter if I get a mother bottle of enth. Prop and enth are the same price for me but the enth is dosed higher and I wouldn't have to inject eod. Guess the benefit would be to start pct earlier. What are your thoughts

[curly_vancouver]

I just noticed your Clomid dose is weak. PCT should be
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
Clomid 100/100/50/50

I had a higher clomid dose over at ef but everyone was telling be that my dose was to high and that I would get to many sides. Only thing is that I don't like nolvadex and also read a lot that people say tren+nolva is bad for some reason

[spiketannin]

bro dont dooo it your only 21 you can easily diet for your goals !!!! dont risk shuttin yourself down.

[spiketannin]

lol i just read your last para and if your gona absolutely do it lemme just say you arre still very uneducated!!

[curly_vancouver]

I have read a lot and know that I should wit longer but it's just not possible for me. I understand the risks involved. I had many people my age cycle, all have had there blood works done and they are fine, the only think is that a one of them have stunted their growth, but I'm 6'2 and his is not a worry for me. Plus he did not take any ai's or pct.

[gonebluffn]

Your cycle needs more research and you should take a few years to better educate yourself you can make incredible gains at your age without aas and by looking at this cycle and your previous cycle you havent ran any of them as they should have been.Not trying to be an **s bro just my opinion good luck

[DamageDealer]

well, if you're stupid enough to use tren at 21, go ahead. don't come crying to us later when you won't be able to get a hard on

[songdog]

Everyone has a friend who did it and thinks he is fine.Wait a year or two down the road and ed low libdo hits.All this for a lil muscle you most likely will lose within a year.Good luck.

[blksavage]

damn atleast I'm 28yrs hey guys would you mind helping me then I guss I can hi jack since I'm of age my stats and cycle are in my threads I would type out again but I'm on android phone and by the time I can it will be too late atleast this way I can check the advice and critiques later

[curly_vancouver]

Do u think I could get away with just an 8 week enth cycle and dropping the TNT. I know I want to run test for sure. I want the results of tren and I do know it's an advanced compound, but if it's that big of a deal I can not run the tren and do a basic test cycle.

[blksavage]

bump anyone

[gonzo6183]

You cant be too educated if you plan on running tren for your first real cycle, I completely disagree with you doing anything at your age, thats just dumb and saying you cant wait shows you are still very immature. but if youre going to do it definitly dont do tren

[blksavage]

screw it I need to find another forum. until then I'll just from load the dbol and use the clen and winny.later on in the cycle to lose some of that water rention and to harden my gains with the masteron thx for jack shit to everyone on this thread.

[gonzo6183]

bump anyone

Mate I dont know your stats or cycle history, illtake a look soon but definitly drop the dbol, 2 orals in a cycle isnt a good idea. dbol can do some good damage (seen it presonally) and take some time to recover, so you wouldnt want to start another oral before your liver is fresh again

[auswest]

screw it I need to find another forum. until then I'll just from load the dbol and use the clen and winny.later on in the cycle to lose some of that water rention and to harden my gains with the masteron thx for jack shit to everyone on this thread.

???? Start ur own thread fool, don't cry when people arnt helping you in someone elses thread ur trying to hijack, what's wrong with you

[gonzo6183]

screw it I need to find another forum. until then I'll just from load the dbol and use the clen and winny.later on in the cycle to lose some of that water rention and to harden my gains with the masteron thx for jack shit to everyone on this thread.

I answerd your question man, drop the dbol... then I loked at your stats, you really need to work on the diet and cardio for a while and cut body fat naturally at 21% you are too high to cycle and you will NOT get the hardening effects of masteron untill you bf is quite low, generally 11% or less. At 21% Mast is pointless, cut forst then go for a lean mass cycle but you still wont need mast, or winny for that matter again another compound that really only shows its true potential at a low bf

[blksavage]

I'm actually at 15 now and thx my winny is injectable

[blksavage]

west get bent because your words dont move me betty boop

[blksavage]

thx alot oznog just been frustrated but good looking out I'll let you know how it goes