Dbols....When are the most gains and How long and when does it start to fade...

[JohnnyBgood247]

Ok so I'm doing a dbols only cycle.
Please dont even with the, i need to do my reaserch...orals only suck...i would add some test in there....whats your pct looking like?
I know all the facts except some and thats why im asking you guys...so dont bother if your not gonna help

ok back to what i was saying i am doing an dbols only...
Ok i got dbols..prolly gonna do 100mg/ed

ok here are my questions...if i want my dbols to be in full effect prolly end of june to mid augest..by hearing that when would i start?
im most likely gonna pass the 6-8 week rountine...maybe..

second when do dbol gains start fading...

and third whats the longest any of you guys have done dbols before ?

thanks alot. i hope you guys are informative.

[leather daddy]

yeh u really know ur stuff bro REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY

good luck with ur shut down goals of 2012. Running Dbols without test.LOL

[leather daddy]

and 100mg ED? lol shit

[gixxerboy1]

so you want to be a bloated mess for the summer?

[JohnnyBgood247]

well ill run armidex with...so that will without a doubt cancel out the bloating. and i only say 100mg cause i think the stuff i get is underdosed.
but can someone answer my questions without sidenotes...pleaseeee...

[leather daddy]

run armidex with it? wth?

Mate running Dbols without a test base is stupid. Unless u enjoy feeling miserable. no sex drive, depressed then go for it. Running some form of test will be the best way to go.

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Ok so I'm doing a dbols only cycle.
Please dont even with the, i need to do my reaserch...orals only suck...i would add some test in there....whats your pct looking like?
I know all the facts except some and thats why im asking you guys...so dont bother if your not gonna help

ok back to what i was saying i am doing an dbols only...
Ok i got dbols..prolly gonna do 100mg/ed

ok here are my questions...if i want my dbols to be in full effect prolly end of june to mid augest..by hearing that when would i start?
im most likely gonna pass the 6-8 week rountine...maybe..

second when do dbol gains start fading...

and third whats the longest any of you guys have done dbols before ?

thanks alot. i hope you guys are informative.

i guess you already know all the reasons why you shouldnt be doing this. so let me just give you some short answers to your short questions.

effects of dbol: you should start seeing weight and strength increase very soon. 1-2 wks? maybe. weight gain will be mostly water, so you wont see any definition of your muscles. try not to take off your shirt.

fades: probably just as fast, within 1-2wks of stopping. whether you go completely back to pre-cycle state, depends on individual.

safest duration: 4wks. longest, not-so-safe: 6wks.

so.. any reason why you're still interested in a dbol-only cycle even though you know you shouldnt?

[gonzo6183]

^^^ Thats all the info you need

Apart from DONT DO IT, its completely pointless, unless as mentioned you just want to be full of water for a few weeks then loose it all and have a fried liver to deal with

[Bulkn]

well ill run armidex with...so that will without a doubt cancel out the bloating. and i only say 100mg cause i think the stuff i get is underdosed.
but can someone answer my questions without sidenotes...pleaseeee...

Sorry to tell you but arimidex won't do much for the bloat..
Why do u think it's underdosed?

[sleepingz]

recommended dose id say is 30-40 mg a day, 100 mg a day? thats like 60% underdosed, u sure thier real? might want to cross reference what they look like in the pics section, it would suck if they were bunk. cant remember if its against the rules to talk about what they look like.. if a vet could chime in

i did an all oral cycle including dbol, dont over do it, your ballsack might explode from the water retention lol

[markdbg]

first off ur dbol i can guaruntee is not underdosed. no one ever underdoses dbol. its dirt cheap to produce. like litterally pennys a pill. its either completely fake or its legit properly dosed. 100 is way to much, even 50 is a high dose esp if its your first/second/third time on dbol. ull blow up on 20-30mg, thats all u need.

also good luck using amiridex to hold off your bloat. it wont do a dam thing for it other then keeping ur estrogen down a bit which in turn lowers bloat caused by estrogen, but the fact is ur running dbol which main purpose is to make you hold water. ur still gonna look like a balloon .

why would u want to take dbol for the summer, dbol makes u look terrible

oh, why do u want to take dbol? to look big so you get the girls? whats the point of getting the girls when ur dick dont work? plus dbol will make u look fat.have fun this summer sittin inside playing with something that wont work becauseto ashamed to go outside and take ur shirt off.

[curly_vancouver]

Sorry if I'm hijacking this thread a bit but it seems like it's goin a bit to s#it anyways, kinda started that way being that it's dbol only without test.
But my question did arise after reading this tread.
my question is that if ur trying to bulk with test prop, will adding dbol only increase bloat, how much of those gain from the dbol are actualy going to be kept, and is the dbol point less for a short ester? Is the Bol only really needed to kickstart a long ester like enth or will adding it to my prop cycle produce some superior gains to prop by itself. Should I add npp instead of dbol for a 5 week cycle?

If I get flamed for hijacking I will start my own thread but I feel like i only need a quick answer and don't need to start another thread to get it.

[ghettoboyd]

yeh u really know ur stuff bro REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY

good luck with ur shut down goals of 2012. Running Dbols without test.LOL

you really should hold off on giving any advise on aas as you have no experiance really to give advise on...the cycle your on now you were advised not to take and you did it anyways so why would anyone listen to your advise seing as how you cant listen yourself?...

[markdbg]

*was answering curly question, but for the sake of this thread gonna pm him instead*

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you really should hold off on giving any advise on aas as you have no experiance really to give advise on...the cycle your on now you were advised not to take and you did it anyways so why would anyone listen to your advise seing as how you cant listen yourself?...

lol
i thought it was his friend, who didnt follow advice.

or was it his friend's friend...

[markdbg]

lol
i thought it was his friend, who didnt follow advice.

or was it his friend's friend...

no it was his friends friend coworkers maids husband who was running the cycle

[curly_vancouver]

Mark, I'm only at 30 something posts and can't use pm's yet. I admire you for wanting to save the tread but I'm sure it can endure one post that isn't slandering the cycle. Would really appreciate the help.

[sleepingz]

calling doctor moonface, please come to ER

[hankdiesel]

Please do us all a favor and take us into the mind of someone who wants to do 100mg of dbol for 6-8 weeks. Do you feel it's safer than test? Are you afraid of needles? To answer your question I feel dbol starts really kicking in for me around week 3. That is why the last time I took it it was for 6 weeks instead of 4. It was only my 2nd time taking it and it will be my last. I feel orals are the most unhealthy thing I can do. It's of coarse harder on my liver, increases bp, and messing up my cholesterol much more than any injectable. Honestly, I'd rather stack 3 injectables together than do what you plan on doing. I'll get significantly better gains and far less side effects.

[The Titan99]

yeh u really know ur stuff bro REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY

good luck with ur shut down goals of 2012. Running Dbols without test.LOL

It's funny your giving this guy shit when you have your own idiot thread called Prami about how you went against everyone's advise and now you can't get a hard on. Good luck with his shut down goals?? I'm not flaming here, but please, how much bigger of a douche bag can you be? It's kind of cartoonish...lol.

[SMcB]

Just curious who has actual d-bol only cycle experience. Is everyone here saying dbol only cycles is a horrible idea because they have firshand experience, or are they just saying this because they don't wanna get flamed? Dbol is the 2nd oldest anabolic steroid produced and has been used for decades. Isn't that all Arnold & co. had at their disposal? They looked anything but fat and bloated. And the way some of you talk about dbol and shutdown, might make some new guys think other steroids won't cause shutdown. For everyone who is anti-dbol only cycles, can you please post your cycle experience?

[sleepingz]

i did dbol for four weeks until i incorporated what i should have, i havent much anabolic experience but i can tell you dbol only is water retention, even when i added anadrol and proviron, then pcr, when i entered pct within two weeks i was pissin without drinking a whole lot and the visual gainsfaded, i put on 5 or 6 pnds over 8.weeks that stayed, it was about 18 pnds alltogether before pct

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Just curious who has actual d-bol only cycle experience. Is everyone here saying dbol only cycles is a horrible idea because they have firshand experience, or are they just saying this because they don't wanna get flamed? Dbol is the 2nd oldest anabolic steroid produced and has been used for decades. Isn't that all Arnold & co. had at their disposal? They looked anything but fat and bloated. And the way some of you talk about dbol and shutdown, might make some new guys think other steroids won't cause shutdown. For everyone who is anti-dbol only cycles, can you please post your cycle experience?

i think hankdiesel gave a rather informative account, a few post up.

on the flipside, lets also hear from everyone who has done an oral-only cycle and loved it? maybe arnold will chime in.

[sleepingz]

sorry got to add that even when i threw in some other things with the dbol it was still an all oral cycle (dbol, anavar, proviron and nolva)

[AD]

sorry got to add that even when i threw in some other things with the dbol it was still an all oral cycle (dbol, anavar, proviron and nolva)

did you enjoy it? how would you rate it, gains and sides considered? would you recommend it to all your friends and family?

this is how we learn in a forum. not everybody need to go thru it to learn it. sharing of experience helps.

[SMcB]

i did dbol for four weeks until i incorporated what i should have, i havent much anabolic experience but i can tell you dbol only is water retention, even when i added anadrol and proviron, then pcr, when i entered pct within two weeks i was pissin without drinking a whole lot and the visual gainsfaded, i put on 5 or 6 pnds over 8.weeks that stayed, it was about 18 pnds alltogether before pct

So you gained 18 lbs. and kept 5-6 after pct? That's not bad at all! Can't be all water retention if some of the gains were permanent. How were the strength gains?

[V-ROID]

8 plus weeks of 100mg ed dbol only cycle. Awesome. Will you please start a log so I can follow your progress? Curious to see the before, during and after pct photos.

[sleepingz]

dont mind sharing the experience at all mate, well....

id say on average my strength increased 10-15% across the board, working a full time job, remembering to dose the dianabol throughout the day (lasts 4-6 hours in your system) as well as the others can be hard if you have a bit of ADD going on like me, but obviously in comparison to all the pro hormones iv tried it was overall a good experience/good gains as i wasnt ready to start injecting so i would recommend it to someone whos got the other variables going (diet,routine)

orals mess with your liver badly, i have just started an injectable cycle so ill be able to report on the differences when im done

[The Titan99]

Just curious who has actual d-bol only cycle experience. Is everyone here saying dbol only cycles is a horrible idea because they have firshand experience, or are they just saying this because they don't wanna get flamed? Dbol is the 2nd oldest anabolic steroid produced and has been used for decades. Isn't that all Arnold & co. had at their disposal? They looked anything but fat and bloated. And the way some of you talk about dbol and shutdown, might make some new guys think other steroids won't cause shutdown. For everyone who is anti-dbol only cycles, can you please post your cycle experience?

See, this is exactly why AAS is illegal. Because of this kind of crap right here. Christ this is moronic. No, I've never done a oral only cycle or a dbol only cycle or no PCT or anything else that's plainly ill advised and just plain stupid. When Arnold was taking dbol it was over 40 years ago!! There was no info, there was no internet there were no guy's that were knowledgeable to speak to. There were no medical studies.

No man, everyone is telling you not to do dbol only cycles because they don't want to get flamed and also because it's the secret cycle that all the big guy's do and they don't want you to succeed in what you want. Only trying to keep all the dbol for themselves. You are the EXACT example that all the anti steroid lobbists just love. Retards who against all advice do idiot cycles, screwthemselves up, then blame the dbol. I love dbol. I'm doing dbol right now. I've done it many, many times. Never done an oral only cycle, never slammed my dick in the door either. Hell, there's a whole list of things not involving potential life changing drugs that I haven't done and it's not to keep from getting flamed. WOW!!

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Nice one, titan

[MickeyKnox]

Nice one, titan

agreed. especially liked the "dik-in-the-door" analogy. that pretty much summed it up for me..lol

[songdog]

See, this is exactly why AAS is illegal. Because of this kind of crap right here. Christ this is moronic. No, I've never done a oral only cycle or a dbol only cycle or no PCT or anything else that's plainly ill advised and just plain stupid. When Arnold was taking dbol it was over 40 years ago!! There was no info, there was no internet there were no guy's that were knowledgeable to speak to. There were no medical studies.

No man, everyone is telling you not to do dbol only cycles because they don't want to get flamed and also because it's the secret cycle that all the big guy's do and they don't want you to succeed in what you want. Only trying to keep all the dbol for themselves. You are the EXACT example that all the anti steroid lobbists just love. Retards who against all advice do idiot cycles, screwthemselves up, then blame the dbol. I love dbol. I'm doing dbol right now. I've done it many, many times. Never done an oral only cycle, never slammed my dick in the door either. Hell, there's a whole list of things not involving potential life changing drugs that I haven't done and it's not to keep from getting flamed. WOW!!

This is post of the year material

[slfmade]

I don't know much about arnold's bodybuilding career so I could be out of my element here, but I can't imagine that he would've taken dbol without test. Since Test is the oldest steroid, I think they would've found out through experience to always take test w/dbol.

[DeadlyD]

See, this is exactly why AAS is illegal. Because of this kind of crap right here. Christ this is moronic. No, I've never done a oral only cycle or a dbol only cycle or no PCT or anything else that's plainly ill advised and just plain stupid. When Arnold was taking dbol it was over 40 years ago!! There was no info, there was no internet there were no guy's that were knowledgeable to speak to. There were no medical studies.

No man, everyone is telling you not to do dbol only cycles because they don't want to get flamed and also because it's the secret cycle that all the big guy's do and they don't want you to succeed in what you want. Only trying to keep all the dbol for themselves. You are the EXACT example that all the anti steroid lobbists just love. Retards who against all advice do idiot cycles, screwthemselves up, then blame the dbol. I love dbol. I'm doing dbol right now. I've done it many, many times. Never done an oral only cycle, never slammed my dick in the door either. Hell, there's a whole list of things not involving potential life changing drugs that I haven't done and it's not to keep from getting flamed. WOW!!

You've never slammed your dick in the door?!?!?

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Everyone better try it at least once before you dare say you dont like it.

[The Titan99]

I don't know much about arnold's bodybuilding career so I could be out of my element here, but I can't imagine that he would've taken dbol without test. Since Test is the oldest steroid, I think they would've found out through experience to always take test w/dbol.

No doubt about it. Everyone's talking about Arnold's physique in "Pumping Iron", which was an awesome movie by the way. Part of what makes a pro BB genetics different from your normal guy is their ability to handle the sides of massive doses of Test/AAS. Arnold must have been taking upward of 3 grams of Test, then slamming on the brakes with NO PCT. Hell, nobody knew what the hell PCT was back then. Now, in that whole movie Arnold was 5-7 days out from Mr. Olympia and I guarantee you he wasn't taking dbol then. Anyone who can't see that needs to get a clue about the different compounds and what they do before human guinea pigging themselves. He was cut to 3-4% BF, most likely loaded on AI's, dehydrated and coming to the end of a long keto diet and couldn't get his dick up with a forklift. 16 yr olds and fools think he walked like that all year. My Avi is what I look like at about 8%. Here's a pic of what I normally look like on a lean bulk using dbol. Thing's are a little different in the real world. Oh, and just for humility's sake. This second pic is from a dbol only cycle....JUST KIDDING!!! This is a pic of me about 4 years ago. Had a pretty bad back injury and couldn't work train for about 18 months. Diet went a little sideways to say the least...lol.

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No doubt about it. Everyone's talking about Arnold's physique in "Pumping Iron", which was an awesome movie by the way. Part of what makes a pro BB genetics different from your normal guy is their ability to handle the sides of massive doses of Test/AAS. Arnold must have been taking upward of 3 grams of Test, then slamming on the brakes with NO PCT. Hell, nobody knew what the hell PCT was back then. Now, in that whole movie Arnold was 5-7 days out from Mr. Olympia and I guarantee you he wasn't taking dbol then. Anyone who can't see that needs to get a clue about the different compounds and what they do before human guinea pigging themselves. He was cut to 3-4% BF, most likely loaded on AI's, dehydrated and coming to the end of a long keto diet and couldn't get his dick up with a forklift. 16 yr olds and fools think he walked like that all year. My Avi is what I look like at about 8%. Here's a pic of what I normally look like on a lean bulk using dbol. Thing's are a little different in the real world. Oh, and just for humility's sake. This second pic is from a dbol only cycle....JUST KIDDING!!! This is a pic of me about 4 years ago. Had a pretty bad back injury and couldn't work train for about 18 months. Diet went a little sideways to say the least...lol.

is that the view from your back yard?!! its amazing!!

[The Titan99]

Yea, I live on an island in The Gulf of Thailand. It's nice!!

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thats the life man!

my back yard is 6ft long and bordered by a wall..some view i got.

[sleepingz]

ive got my own personal dbol factory in my garden, ran by a bunch gimp slaves, pretty amazing i know, but thats my dedication to havin a secured supply of the worlds best steroid.... plus im giving back to the gimp community so its like two birds with one stone

arnold only on dbol... u just got to laught at s!?t like that...