first cycle

[raphe111]

I think it's about time for my first cycle.
I've heard good reviews about teen 13 ethyl from friends and on the internet and considering my location that's the easiest for me to acquire., I know about the wet gains and the acne.. basic side effects. I'm more worried about the PCT, the PCT Maxx from NRG-X comes with the tren but would you guys advise any other PCT?

[raphe111]

tren***

[DanB]

stay away from otc ph's especially anything that may be a tren precusor, you most likely WILL fvck yourself up and do more harm than good

OTC pct is 100% garbage and I mean total junk, look into the ingredients listed in it, I done this for somebody last week on here and his OTC PCT contained various herbs and spices, one of them was nutmeg, the other was ginger, cant remember the other 2, but they used fancy chemical names for it all, but it all b.s. and they useless

What are your stats?

Age
Height
Weight
Bodyfat
Training experience
Cycle Experience
Goals
Current daily macros

[gearbox]

next quest DanB will ask for your phone number and email...

[DanB]

I can get that without even asking him

[gearbox]

lol... not sure i wanna know how

and op u gotta give alot more info so we can better assist u

[raphe111]

What more info can I give for further assistance?
New user here you'll have to help me out.
20 years old.
Training for about a year and a half
77kgs
12% bf
No cycle experience
2900 calories a day
Goals are 80+ kgs in the next 6 or so months.

[DamageDealer]

steroids are not for you. you're 20 years old, which is too young, and don't have enough training experience. and 2900 calories a day tells us nothing. you should tell your macros. also, what's your height?

[marcus300]

AGE

In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.


Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection /tablet.


Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.



TRAINING

You need a few years of hard training under your belt before even considering taking any kind of anabolic support, people who jump on a cycle to soon without having some quality years under their belt usually results in injuries, it takes time to develop your connective tissue, tendons and nervous system to heavy overload training. Slowly getting your own system use to these kinds of extreme's will only help in muscle growth later on when you do decide to start taking AAS.


Build a solid foundation for muscle tissue to grow and maintaining and development will be far greater than without it. Many younger guys will start cycling before they have reached their genetic potential which is crazy when a good solid diet and training program will be far beneficial and productive to muscle building.


Workouts should be mainly focused on basic movements with a priority of over loading the muscle each and ever time you train, increasing your strength and ability to lift in proper form will help with building the foundation for future development


DIET

A lot of younger bodybuilders don't know how to eat. Researching and understanding how your own body responds will help you get to your natural limit, the right food at the right time and a full understanding of proteins,carbs, and fats will only help you succeed in achieving your natural goals. Keeping a diet diary will also help you understand the importance of macro, nutrients, calories and should help you see in which areas you could be going wrong in adding lean muscle tissue.


No matter how much anabolic support you have it will be worthless without proper nutrition , food will help build and maintain your valued muscle weather its natural, cycling or in PCT . Adjusting your food intake and consuming muscle building foods coupled with a solid training program will help you achieve your natural limit and foundation before you start AAS use.


This area is a huge problem with the younger guys and I can't express enough how important diet /food is when first starting out, post and pre training nutrition are very important and understanding how to load and feed the body will help push growth and create a very natural anabolic environment.

[warren916]

Those are NOT steroids bro...steroids are ILLEGAL..meaning you cannot just buy them in a store.

[raphe111]

I'd say my macros are 50/60/10 If that makes sense.
My height is 6''2'

[DamageDealer]

i'f you're 6'2 and 77kgs, then you're really skinny. steroids won't help you gain mass because you don't eat enough. a 6'2 person should consume at least 4000 calories a day to gain weight. start from building your diet up, get to at least 90kgs, then come back in a few years and we'll talk about steroids.

[raphe111]

What about pro hormones?
Thanks for the advise on steroids I'll take it seriously.

[marcus300]

PH are the same or in some cases worse than aas for sides. But in all honesty your a long way away from taking anything because you need to sort your diet out and put some natural foundation down for the next few year.

[raphe111]

Alright thanks guys, Needed the help badly.