First time user: Test E

[Panterror]

Hey guys ive been snooping around these boards for some time and i figured i might as well join and just ask my question.
heres the quick facts:
age 23
weight 232
height 6'5"
BF: 12%
training 6 years, serious 4, very serious 2
Goals: Make some nice LEAN gains for summer, i like my BF% now though even going down another percent or so would be ideal. i understand this is almost entirely to do with diet.

Diet:
4200kcal/day very clean all recorded

Routine:
Lifts every other day

Cycle history: none

Cycle:
Test E . My stuff is dosed at 15ml @ 250mg. I was thinking 500mg every 5 days (was recommended to me) but am willing to down the dose. I was also planning 10 wks but that depends on your guys advice. the dosing on my stuff seems like an awkward number so depending on what you tell me ill have to get another bottle.
PCT: i have clomid and nolva. was planning to take the nolva the DAY AFTER last pin, and clomid 14 DAYS AFTER last pin, however there seems to be alot of mixed idea on which to take or both. Please correct me if this is wrong.
Thanks guys let me know if you need anything else.
Stoked to here your advice, thanks!

[jpowell]

ok first off, thanks for the detailed info. as per board rule the fellas here arent gonna advise u to cycle or evn how to cycle. b smart n use ur natural test and diet to help u grow. good luck n welcome to the board!

[AD]

so you finally got your questions posted! congrats.

but frankly, all your questions are already answered in the Educational section under the threads "beginners' cycle" and "cycle for the newbie". have you read thru everything there? while you're there, also read "young and steroids" and "why you shouldn't use AAS". you need to know all the risks before you can make in informed decision.

[Panterror]

I have grazed through most of it there. Alot of it is based on diet. The parts on age vary between 21+ to 25+, but the general consensus seems to be that 23 is a grey area. Also many of the information there is quite old, some of it 10 years so i figured id ask to get up to date info, just in case anything in the game has changed in the last few year as far as pct and such.

The steroid profile says AI's are usually needed for doses over 500mg a week so thats why i was asking if 500mg a week was good or i should go lower for a first time cycle.
As for PCT im, from what i can gather clomid should be taken 14 days after last pin, but i havent found any solid info on nolva so i was wondering if thats the same or just take it right after. Since nolva is simply working at the receptor level i would think take it right away, but im not sure.
Thanks!

[Razor]

I wish someone would recommended that you wait a few more years but I would really recommended that ..u have attained so much without it..I'm sure u could continue. What is ur ultimate goal.

[DamageDealer]

I have grazed through most of it there. Alot of it is based on diet. The parts on age vary between 21+ to 25+, but the general consensus seems to be that 23 is a grey area. Also many of the information there is quite old, some of it 10 years so i figured id ask to get up to date info, just in case anything in the game has changed in the last few year as far as pct and such.

The steroid profile says AI's are usually needed for doses over 500mg a week so thats why i was asking if 500mg a week was good or i should go lower for a first time cycle.
As for PCT im, from what i can gather clomid should be taken 14 days after last pin, but i havent found any solid info on nolva so i was wondering if thats the same or just take it right after. Since nolva is simply working at the receptor level i would think take it right away, but im not sure.
Thanks!

if you do plan to cycle, i recommend you to get arimidex or aromasin as an AI. and yes, you do need it.

[AD]

most people think that a first cycle should be around 500mg/wk. not every 5 days. and most people will take nolva and clomid together 2wks after last pin, not one before the other.

if you think that 23 year old is in the grey area, at least read thru all the warning stickies in detail so you understand the risks completely, before you make your decision.

good luck

[Panterror]

okay thanks guys i appreciate it