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Stats
210lbs
About 15%bodyfat
Training 3 year
Had 1 cycle previously
I have enough eq to run 500mg ew for 15 weeks so the plan is eq 500mg w1-15 and I hav enough test e for 250mg 10 weeks. Test e 250mg w6-16. I have nolva and clomid to start pct 14 days after last test injection.
Wud this be best way to run 30ml eq 250mg ml and 10ml test e 250mg ml
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post your age and height also. if it's a bulking cycle, i would also cut down around 5% of that bodyfat. test e at 250mg a week is nothing. eq is weak compared to test. buy more test to run it 500mg/week with 5-600mg/week of eq. make it a 12 week cycle. i'm not really familiar with eq tbqh, hopefully someone more experienced will chime in and tell you more about it. either way, test e dose is too low.
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I'm 21 and 5'9. I was thinking more of a cutting cycle with right diet plus clen 2 weeks on ECA 2 weeks off. And maybe adding anavar in for last 6 weeks?
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Any thoughts on this damage dealer??
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sorry dude, you're too young to do AAS now. cut naturally, use clen if you need. if you're doing ECA on 2 weeks off, make sure to use ketotifen at 2mg/day, because those 2 weeks off of clen are intended to downregulate the beta-receptors so that clen will be powerful again. ECA sure won't help with that
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You're too young and that cycle needs a lot of work. Shutting yourself down could permanently damage your endocrine system. Go to the Steroid Forum and read the stickies so you get a better understanding.
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Thanx for advise guys. Yes I am too young but av already started AAS now. Arny won his first universe at 19 n he was too young too. As far as I know the equipoise takes 6-8 weeks before it starts to kick in so if I run for 15 weeks I will be getting the most of it. As for the test its jus in there to keep some test in my system. By a lot of work wat is your opinion?
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Any advice on wat work I should do with my cycle and explain please. I have done a lot o research but a would be greatful for extra tips from experienced users. Thank you.
Productive Member
How far into the cycle are you?
New Member
I havnt started this cycle yet I plan to start in a months time
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Yeah, I don't like giving my opinion on cycle use to young guys (other than saying to wait), but I will tell you that what Damage Dealer was saying regarding Test being too low is what I would say too... I would disagree that 12 weeks would be better than 15 for this cycle.
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Even if im tryin to keep water retention to a minimum the test is too low? Thanks JD
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I can't engage in advising someone your age how to use AAS... I am in the middle of a Test/Eq cycle right now and have found that even at MUCH higher doses of Test, water retention is not an issue with the use of an AI.Originally Posted by Rambo252
Every single question you could possibly have about this cycle is answered in these forums.
Just search "water retention" or whatever... Keep it simple and stay safe. Don't get any great ideas about adding in this or that in terms of other steroids.
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I didn't realise 21 was so young?? And I have read many threads with different answeres. Yes I am
Young but been young with no advice off experienced users
Would be worse. I will up the dose of the test if that's the best thing to do. My goals of the cycle are to cut body fat while keeping my size on a low carb diet. Thanx again.
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Honestly, not even joking, if those are your goals, you don't need steroids.
There are supplements that actually work for this. Of course diet and training are MOST important, but you can achieve those goals while saving a ton of money and unwanted side effects.
New Member
Am sorry but I have been training 3 years and I do know that I can not achieve the size and leanness with supplements alone. Yes I could use supplements (which I do) with the right diet to lose fat but no way could I maintain the size off that alone compared to using steroids??
Member
If you're saying that you want to maintain your current muscle mass and cut fat, yes, you can do that without juice.
You could even gain and cut fat, just gain, gain fat, etc... Seriously.
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All put it another way.. I want to be as big and ripped as possible. I ask for advice for how to take the steroids I have and you telling me I don't need them is bullshit. Y r u on test and equipoise??
Productive Member
some people have reached their genetic potential, and/or the age of safe use...if your this emotional now, and only on a forum advising you for your safety and benefit...and you're to imature to realize that these STRANGERS dont really know or care about you on a personal level, or care if you grow bigger and faster then them, and ONLY give advice based on SCIENTIFIC facts, NOT OPINION...AND that you've probably already read MANY times....i'd hate to see the emotional swing if you shut your system down permenantly and suffer low T... or how your emotions will change with the use of AAS...
if your looking for advice, you got the best of it already...
if your looking for someone to justify your decision, it's will not happen here....
if your looking to twaek you cycle and go ahead with it anyways, regardless of the SOLID ADVICE GIVEN... you'll have to read other peoples threads and the profiles and stickies in the steroids board and make the adjsutments your self...
nobody hates you, and nobody wants you to fail, or to be misurable..your not that important
stay thirsty my friend
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Ha thanx dude... I guess. I didn't come here looking for advice on whether to take steroids or not a made that decision wen I took my first cycle. Jus wanted opinions on best way to run the juice I have..
Productive Member
sometimes the answer we want isnt the answer we get...if it wasnt such a seroius problem, and the risks werent so severe - you would have gotten different advice. facts are facts, regardless of who is reading them. Good luck to you brother, and i really hope you achieve your goals. above that, i hope you dont do irreversable damage trying to better your life. it's one thing to look good now, and feel great now...but imagine if you had to support a life long test cycle...mathematically speaking IF you only had 1 shot of test for TRT per week for the rest of your life due to permanent shutdown, you use 2652 needles and 266 vials of test if you only lived to 70 years old...wouldnt that be awesome???
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Cheers bro. Appreciate your comments.
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JustJoe summed it up. I know the position you are in and would love to spell out a cycle for you... The fact is that what I told you would be more effective in the long run.
Eq at that dose is considered low. Bumping your test up won't make you fat. It does take a while for Eq to kick in... Fill in the blanks.
Don't get mad. Keep cycling at your age and you won't even be able to get mad when you're not on cycle.
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A no it wudnt make me fat.. Just out of curiosity wat age is safe? Or safest? To start AAS. I hav read 18,19,20,21,25.
Productive Member
25 your HPTA is fully developed, all bones have grown to full potential and webbed together, and your test levels have subsided to a normal (who really knows what normal is) range and you will minimalize negative effects of your endo system...it's never perfectly safe, and there is def. associated risk at any age. it's all about understanding the risks the apply to you and making the decisions that will benefit you the most, for the longest peroid of time. thats what its all about right?? --->personal benefit <---
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Even if you have stopped growing taller or wider or whatever, your endocrine system will not be fully developed until your mid-20s. So 25 is the rule of thumb.
Google 'endocrine system' and decide if it's worth shutting it down and never fully getting it back. If you interfere with something before it is fully matured, your risk of permanent damage is, I'd say, exponentially compromised every month too early you start.
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