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has anyone ever used at 25% before your answer just know thats not what I'm doing I just wanted to hear stories because it seems that one of the golden rules are to get the bf down first. I guess I'm curious because if your eating clean and say your on a aas like tren which melts the hell out of fat what would be thr problem? ? (please dont reply if your going to be a smart arse) ps I know you would never take tren alone
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im ona cycle right now of deca and enanthate at 27% i feel great
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We don't recommend getting your BF under 15% because your cycle will "feel better", its recommended because there are certain side effects associated with cycling with excessive BF, some of which could be deadly, and some of which could be just be an emasculating nuisance, like the increased likelihood & severity of Gyno. (b!tch tits)Originally Posted by bodybycookiesandcake
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Important to watch BP when cycling at higher body fat.
I am sure lots of guys here have done it.
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couple of thoughts
all cycles need test as a base.
at high bff%, test will metabolize or aromatize into estrogen MORE than it would at the lower BF%. it shows up in the blood as estradiol. too much increases the likelihood of side effects... gyno, lower libido, ED...
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What if you run dex or letro to counteract aromatization?
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Yes, AI's will help combat this, but your doses will likely have to be larger. However, AI's wont help with high BP issues. Its best just to lose the fat bro.
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Figured the doses would be higher then average due to the BF% being so high, especially at 20+. Ahhh I wasn't thinking about it effecting the BP, that alone explains enough for me haha.
Was curious on AI's with high bf% though, thanks.
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i eat clean and do fasted cardio keeping my hr under 140 for 40 mins, im obviously losing weight. the key is not to go hard on eating fats to my understanding as it will lead to speedy sides.
i feel better when im above 20% bf and lifting then when im below 15%. i rather feel better then smash hot bitches cause im "buff" i did all that when i was 19, when u get to mid thirtys its all about feeling good. for me at least.
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I'm 33, & I don't do it because I want to smash hot b!tches, I married the hottest Brazilian Princess on the planet. I do it because its healthier & i feel like a complete slob over 12%. Please don't be offended, that's not my intention.
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Is that you in your avi?
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LOL, no, I would never put a pic of myself on this site, no matter how proud of myself I am. But honestly, I AM fairly close to that pic, I'm just not as thick / dense yet & my traps are about half that size. I am on a Test. / Tren. blast & cruise that will get me there by X-mas. My goal is 300 lbs. / 10%
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i'm 35 and like to smash hot girls. Well the only i smash now is my wife. But she probably wouldnt be my wife either if i was 25% bf
Why have all the health risk to loose the fat?
If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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Exactly how I feel as well. For no more than the cost of some sweat, time & discipline, you can cut your hearts workload almost in half & have an overall better quality of life.................health wise anyway.
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My last Tren/Test cycle was done when I was 260 lbs. I am now about 240lbs and at around 25%. I felt GREAT! Had no concernable sides and lost 20 lbs of pure fat! I am planning to run it again but am working on my diet as we speak to try and maximise my results!
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I bet if you checked your BP at that high of BF & while on gear, your jaw would hit the floor. Just cause you're not "feeling" anything, doesn't mean there's not something dangerous going on.
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Kept an eye on the BP Bear and it was around 85/140 just to the high side of normal...it stayed nearly the same through out and thats where I normaly am.
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I would like to hear more about this "I feel better at 25% then 15%" I am not trying to rip, I am just curious.
and yes op and others- it is not just estro sides that affect aas use at high bf%. bp is a big one we know. and also cholestrol. aas already effects your hdl and ldl. Typically if you are higher in bf% your choles is a lot higher too. I personally do not want the add another issue for my heart, liver, kidney's etc to have to deal with this
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Hero!! 300lbs at 10%. Sick
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Just checked my BP yesterday, I started right under 15% and now I am at almost 19%.
135/81 - Seems good, but I'm watching. Hauling extra fat around is not cool. For me at least and this is kind of a lot.
But, I'm treating my cycle like a very solid bulk. I'm gaining about 60/40 Lbm to Fat right now, which to me isn't bad. I wanted to gain size and this is working great so far. I shed fat fast and I can do it later.
I wouldn't really want to do a cycle if I was over 17% at most. I mean even 20% for a guy seems high.
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because ive been very lean all my life. being heavier ive been able to keep good linear progression with training and keep my lifts high. i purposely bulked up that high to have more density to work with before this last cycle. ive gone from 90kgs to 98kgs in 6.5 weeks, and lost alot of fat, love handles are left and thats mostly deca bloat. i drop the deca soon. i dont sugest people do what i have but it works for me. everything is checked and my meals are actually prepared for me in the morning in advance.
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seems the census is some do and then some dont but with that being said it looks like most run at a lower bf%. great feed back guys thx
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